> The finding of the IOPC comes after the **Met Police said “no misconduct was identified”** when it reviewed the incident last year.
Would have been surprised about tasering a 10 year old until I see it’s the Met…again
Even though the 10 year old girl was “armed” and threatening someone,
> The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
I’m baffled that a trained adult copper cannot deal with a 10 year old girl without needing a taser.
FFS it gets worse it wasn’t even a lone copper there was more than one and they still couldn’t cope without needing a taser… just goes to show given the option they will use maximum force, just as well they weren’t armed with guns instead of a taser or they would have simply shot her
> A force spokesman said at the time: “**Officers** attended the scene and entered the property. A police Taser was discharged.
> Sky News revealed last year that children as young as 10 and an 87-year-old pensioner had been tasered by police amid a sharp rise in officers firing the devices in the last three years.
> But the Children’s Rights Alliance for England has called for the use of Tasers on children “to be eliminated”.
> Louise King, the organisation’s director, told Sky News that Tasers “inflict intolerable pain” and the government’s own advisers had warned youngsters are at greater risk of injury from the devices
Do you want to hold the carpet up or do the sweeping ?
Seems like a completely fair use of a taser and the safest means to reduce the danger for everyone in the vicinity
“Threatening with garden shears and a hammer”
It sounds like she had it coming.
>The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
I mean.
In this instance, what else is he going to do?
Ask her DOB before deciding action?
There’s kids at my lads school who were bigger than me before age 10! They don’t all look like little angels.
She’d got weapons and was threatening to use them!
When somebody has a knife and is aggressive, the correct response is verbal communication (”This isn’t a good idea. Put the knife down so we can talk about this” etc) and, if possible, creating distance around them until they calm down and put the knife down. A ten year old can kill somebody as effectively as anybody, if they stick something sharp somewhere important.
When this doesn’t work, or if they can’t be kept at a safe distance, the only correct response, and the safest response for all involved, is a taser.
Using UK training and equipment, Tasers do not kill people. Anybody who tells you otherwise is, at best, somebody who hasn’t done any real research and doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Some of the comments here.
Would you A either like to have your bones and muscles broken and smashed by a PC with his positive lock baton ?
Would you B like to be tasered and fall over?
/r/U.K. “baton safer”
Some of you have never been in a violent confrontation and it shows.
I mean a ten year old with a knife is still pretty dangerous. The lords resistance army didn’t utilise child soldiers for nothing.
Obviously there’s a time it’s acceptable to taze a child – granted a very narrow and specific set of circumstances but you know, lets hear it all.
Pfff she was only tased? That’s nothing here in America. /s
I think my favourite is still when they tasered the blind bloke in the park because they thought his stick was a fucking rifle.
I wonder what goes on in the heads of people who read this headline and feel the need to rush to the defence of the police officer.
Also why are you all so scared of 10 year old girls? Like if I was scared of 10 year old girls I would be too embarrassed to admit that on a public forum lol. We expect the police to defuse much more dangerous situations than 10 year old girls with gardening tools.
It reminds me of how the American Polics have to shoot sleeping people because “He/She was dangerous and the officer fears for thei lives” lord help is if the UK plod are ever given access to firearms.
An awful lot of people are defending this copper without knowing any of the details the IOPC know. Just because he was called to the address because of reports of an armed child doesn’t mean that when he deployed the taser it was necessary or proportionate.
Edit: Looking at the post history of the most vocal users it seems we’ve got a flood in from the UK police subreddit actually.
And by the sounds of it should be cleared, considering what she was threatening people with.
> The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
Good. Tase the psycho twice as far as I’m concerned.
Well, seeing people defending taser use of a fucking CHILD wasn’t on my list for the day, you psychos
I think it’s safe to assume that most British youths probably carry a knife, so it’s better to taser them before they stab you or someone else.
Most people here didn’t read the article and jumped to the conclusions they wanted, but the child was tased in her home *After* the altercation with the garden equipment.
It’s possible the child resisted arrest wile in the home but there is no evidence to support that or the claim the the police fired unjustly.
Overall it’s better to wait for the results of the misconduct proceedings than to jump to conclusions without all the facts.
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> The finding of the IOPC comes after the **Met Police said “no misconduct was identified”** when it reviewed the incident last year.
Would have been surprised about tasering a 10 year old until I see it’s the Met…again
Even though the 10 year old girl was “armed” and threatening someone,
> The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
I’m baffled that a trained adult copper cannot deal with a 10 year old girl without needing a taser.
FFS it gets worse it wasn’t even a lone copper there was more than one and they still couldn’t cope without needing a taser… just goes to show given the option they will use maximum force, just as well they weren’t armed with guns instead of a taser or they would have simply shot her
> A force spokesman said at the time: “**Officers** attended the scene and entered the property. A police Taser was discharged.
> Sky News revealed last year that children as young as 10 and an 87-year-old pensioner had been tasered by police amid a sharp rise in officers firing the devices in the last three years.
> But the Children’s Rights Alliance for England has called for the use of Tasers on children “to be eliminated”.
> Louise King, the organisation’s director, told Sky News that Tasers “inflict intolerable pain” and the government’s own advisers had warned youngsters are at greater risk of injury from the devices
Do you want to hold the carpet up or do the sweeping ?
Seems like a completely fair use of a taser and the safest means to reduce the danger for everyone in the vicinity
“Threatening with garden shears and a hammer”
It sounds like she had it coming.
>The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
I mean.
In this instance, what else is he going to do?
Ask her DOB before deciding action?
There’s kids at my lads school who were bigger than me before age 10! They don’t all look like little angels.
She’d got weapons and was threatening to use them!
When somebody has a knife and is aggressive, the correct response is verbal communication (”This isn’t a good idea. Put the knife down so we can talk about this” etc) and, if possible, creating distance around them until they calm down and put the knife down. A ten year old can kill somebody as effectively as anybody, if they stick something sharp somewhere important.
When this doesn’t work, or if they can’t be kept at a safe distance, the only correct response, and the safest response for all involved, is a taser.
Using UK training and equipment, Tasers do not kill people. Anybody who tells you otherwise is, at best, somebody who hasn’t done any real research and doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Some of the comments here.
Would you A either like to have your bones and muscles broken and smashed by a PC with his positive lock baton ?
Would you B like to be tasered and fall over?
/r/U.K. “baton safer”
Some of you have never been in a violent confrontation and it shows.
I mean a ten year old with a knife is still pretty dangerous. The lords resistance army didn’t utilise child soldiers for nothing.
Obviously there’s a time it’s acceptable to taze a child – granted a very narrow and specific set of circumstances but you know, lets hear it all.
Pfff she was only tased? That’s nothing here in America. /s
I think my favourite is still when they tasered the blind bloke in the park because they thought his stick was a fucking rifle.
I wonder what goes on in the heads of people who read this headline and feel the need to rush to the defence of the police officer.
Also why are you all so scared of 10 year old girls? Like if I was scared of 10 year old girls I would be too embarrassed to admit that on a public forum lol. We expect the police to defuse much more dangerous situations than 10 year old girls with gardening tools.
It reminds me of how the American Polics have to shoot sleeping people because “He/She was dangerous and the officer fears for thei lives” lord help is if the UK plod are ever given access to firearms.
An awful lot of people are defending this copper without knowing any of the details the IOPC know. Just because he was called to the address because of reports of an armed child doesn’t mean that when he deployed the taser it was necessary or proportionate.
Edit: Looking at the post history of the most vocal users it seems we’ve got a flood in from the UK police subreddit actually.
And by the sounds of it should be cleared, considering what she was threatening people with.
> The officer fired the weapon at the youngster in southwest London following reports she was threatening a woman with garden shears and a hammer.
Good. Tase the psycho twice as far as I’m concerned.
Well, seeing people defending taser use of a fucking CHILD wasn’t on my list for the day, you psychos
I think it’s safe to assume that most British youths probably carry a knife, so it’s better to taser them before they stab you or someone else.
Most people here didn’t read the article and jumped to the conclusions they wanted, but the child was tased in her home *After* the altercation with the garden equipment.
It’s possible the child resisted arrest wile in the home but there is no evidence to support that or the claim the the police fired unjustly.
Overall it’s better to wait for the results of the misconduct proceedings than to jump to conclusions without all the facts.