How weird to relate military alignment to casual sex in the headline of an article.
I think our neutrality is kinda just an optimistic convenient excuse for having no actual defence capabilities
We joined a NATO ITPP in February, have the RAF policing our skies, have US troops keeping Shannon duty free afloat.
Our peacekeeping missions don’t work at all, the defence forces in Lebanon are there to help keep Hezbollah out of the south which they just don’t do, and even had a soldier killed after making a wrong turn and we did nothing
We’re a neutral country in the sense we actually have no military capabilities at all, but we are a NATO ally and have traded our neutrality for outsourcing our defence
We can’t join NATO, we couldn’t afford the defence budget requirements, but we’re trying our best to let NATO defend us.
Whether it’s a good thing we save on defence by inviting friendly allies do it is something i don’t know
Considering we have an army and navy, it’s a stra get conclusion to say we’ve no mitary capabilities.
Were neutral in a sense we dont send our military to fight in wars between other countries. We use our military to protect the peace.
I dunno why we’d bother to invest heavily in defence.if a superpower wanted to invade us. We’d be fucked anyway. However, the UK pretty much has to protect us because it’s in their interest to do so.
We don’t need to invest in defense until we should have done it years ago
“Why bother, it’s wasted money anyway!”
Norway, US, and UK have to rush resources to the wesssssht when Russians test boundaries with global infrastructure in our seas at risk.
There’s an arrogant privilege with some Irish that I really worry about, because there’s a bare minimum that Ireland is failing at.
Fuck this. Does anyone believe russia is a threat to ireland ? Its madness.
Hug and kiss the military alliance ran by those who have caused most wars since ww2 and are openly backing brutal genocide and land theft in Palestine. Russia will just waltz on into Lithuania and then onto Poland, triggering NATO and EU defence protocols starting WW3 just for the craic after they’ve lost a huge amount of men and resources in Ukraine yea. Which is it, Russia is collapsing and pathetic and can’t even beat Ukraine or Russia is an existential threat to all of Europe? Every day the narrative changes, the nazis used the same narrative that the USSR was a crumbling weak state yet also a major threat to Germany. Russia can’t even maintain one aircraft carrier now and are at their relatively weakest point in decades.
And don’t forget the scary Russian “disinformation”, not a night goes by where I don’t have nightmares over this. Sometimes I dream of Putin single-handedly stuffing millions of Trump votes into ballot boxes in the US in 2016 and going on dates with Victor Orban because of course local citizens have no agency and are just controlled by evil Russian “disinformation”. Anything against liberal narratives, such as questioning enormous flows of refugees during times of extreme pressure on accommodation, healthcare systems etc is “Russian disinformation”. Prepared to be downvoted to hell because of the enormous presence of “Irish” Americans, influence ops bots and extreme liberals on this site.
Yeah Russia is going to invade… something… through Ireland, sure.
Russia is going to march through countless European countries completely unscathed in its goal to invade the most westerly country in Europe. Sounds plausible.
Any attempts to join or increase cooperation with NATO must be met with people taking to the streets in protest, it won’t be our rich politicians children that are signed up for war, it will be the average joe soaps.
The United States has been the biggest enabler of the genocide of Palestinian people, yet they want us to sign up to help them achieve their military goals. Fuck off.
Journalists love their misleading headlines…
No shock here at all.
The current government seem intent on moving us from a place of neutrality to membership of an EU army.
Looks like Irelands getting fucked again
I honestly don’t care if we’re in NATO or not but this idea, that we stand alone in terms of lacking any obligation to guard our own territory is laughable at best. It makes a mockery of the idea we’re an independent, sovereign state.
I think we should have the capability to track anything in our airspace through long range radar and then at least make some semblance of an escort to meet it. That means fighter jets of some description – they don’t have to be F22s or Eurofighters or whatever the latest is of those. Maybe those ones Sweden uses. But *something*.
We have larger territorial waters and a huge amount of vital cables go through it; why can’t we at least fly over it in a reasonable time, just to show we’re able to identify anyone entering it. We should be able to patrol our waters 24/7/365 in some way, again as a deterrent – against drug smuggling if nothing else.
We could do this as a neutral country – Sweden did for years, as did Finland. We seem to think ‘neutral’ means running the Defence Forces like they’re the next step up from Venture Scouts, only with the odd machine gun. We could and should do better.
We can have greater defense capabilities while remaining neutral.
Question is how do we fund that? It’s not like the state is already efficient with how it spends our taxes.
If a bike shed is anything to go by imagine how much defense contractors are going to rip us off?
Alternatively do people want to see foreign military bases in our country in the name of defense?
I just can’t understand why any person with even a basic understanding of the history of global warfare would want to join a military alliance with some of the worst countries in the world. Russia are terrible, but so is the US, UK, France, etc. If you think that joining NATO makes us less likely to be involved in the next big war, then you’re an idiot.
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How weird to relate military alignment to casual sex in the headline of an article.
I think our neutrality is kinda just an optimistic convenient excuse for having no actual defence capabilities
We joined a NATO ITPP in February, have the RAF policing our skies, have US troops keeping Shannon duty free afloat.
Our peacekeeping missions don’t work at all, the defence forces in Lebanon are there to help keep Hezbollah out of the south which they just don’t do, and even had a soldier killed after making a wrong turn and we did nothing
We’re a neutral country in the sense we actually have no military capabilities at all, but we are a NATO ally and have traded our neutrality for outsourcing our defence
We can’t join NATO, we couldn’t afford the defence budget requirements, but we’re trying our best to let NATO defend us.
Whether it’s a good thing we save on defence by inviting friendly allies do it is something i don’t know
Considering we have an army and navy, it’s a stra get conclusion to say we’ve no mitary capabilities.
Were neutral in a sense we dont send our military to fight in wars between other countries. We use our military to protect the peace.
I dunno why we’d bother to invest heavily in defence.if a superpower wanted to invade us. We’d be fucked anyway. However, the UK pretty much has to protect us because it’s in their interest to do so.
We don’t need to invest in defense until we should have done it years ago
“Why bother, it’s wasted money anyway!”
Norway, US, and UK have to rush resources to the wesssssht when Russians test boundaries with global infrastructure in our seas at risk.
There’s an arrogant privilege with some Irish that I really worry about, because there’s a bare minimum that Ireland is failing at.
Fuck this. Does anyone believe russia is a threat to ireland ? Its madness.
Hug and kiss the military alliance ran by those who have caused most wars since ww2 and are openly backing brutal genocide and land theft in Palestine. Russia will just waltz on into Lithuania and then onto Poland, triggering NATO and EU defence protocols starting WW3 just for the craic after they’ve lost a huge amount of men and resources in Ukraine yea. Which is it, Russia is collapsing and pathetic and can’t even beat Ukraine or Russia is an existential threat to all of Europe? Every day the narrative changes, the nazis used the same narrative that the USSR was a crumbling weak state yet also a major threat to Germany. Russia can’t even maintain one aircraft carrier now and are at their relatively weakest point in decades.
And don’t forget the scary Russian “disinformation”, not a night goes by where I don’t have nightmares over this. Sometimes I dream of Putin single-handedly stuffing millions of Trump votes into ballot boxes in the US in 2016 and going on dates with Victor Orban because of course local citizens have no agency and are just controlled by evil Russian “disinformation”. Anything against liberal narratives, such as questioning enormous flows of refugees during times of extreme pressure on accommodation, healthcare systems etc is “Russian disinformation”. Prepared to be downvoted to hell because of the enormous presence of “Irish” Americans, influence ops bots and extreme liberals on this site.
Yeah Russia is going to invade… something… through Ireland, sure.
Russia is going to march through countless European countries completely unscathed in its goal to invade the most westerly country in Europe. Sounds plausible.
Any attempts to join or increase cooperation with NATO must be met with people taking to the streets in protest, it won’t be our rich politicians children that are signed up for war, it will be the average joe soaps.
The United States has been the biggest enabler of the genocide of Palestinian people, yet they want us to sign up to help them achieve their military goals. Fuck off.
Journalists love their misleading headlines…
No shock here at all.
The current government seem intent on moving us from a place of neutrality to membership of an EU army.
Looks like Irelands getting fucked again
I honestly don’t care if we’re in NATO or not but this idea, that we stand alone in terms of lacking any obligation to guard our own territory is laughable at best. It makes a mockery of the idea we’re an independent, sovereign state.
I think we should have the capability to track anything in our airspace through long range radar and then at least make some semblance of an escort to meet it. That means fighter jets of some description – they don’t have to be F22s or Eurofighters or whatever the latest is of those. Maybe those ones Sweden uses. But *something*.
We have larger territorial waters and a huge amount of vital cables go through it; why can’t we at least fly over it in a reasonable time, just to show we’re able to identify anyone entering it. We should be able to patrol our waters 24/7/365 in some way, again as a deterrent – against drug smuggling if nothing else.
We could do this as a neutral country – Sweden did for years, as did Finland. We seem to think ‘neutral’ means running the Defence Forces like they’re the next step up from Venture Scouts, only with the odd machine gun. We could and should do better.
We can have greater defense capabilities while remaining neutral.
Question is how do we fund that? It’s not like the state is already efficient with how it spends our taxes.
If a bike shed is anything to go by imagine how much defense contractors are going to rip us off?
Alternatively do people want to see foreign military bases in our country in the name of defense?
I just can’t understand why any person with even a basic understanding of the history of global warfare would want to join a military alliance with some of the worst countries in the world. Russia are terrible, but so is the US, UK, France, etc. If you think that joining NATO makes us less likely to be involved in the next big war, then you’re an idiot.