If you thought Harris/Trump was brutal wait for Walz/Vance October 1

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2024/09/13/how-to-watch-the-first-jd-vance-tim-walz-vice-presidential-debate/75190476007/

30 comments

  1. I’m kinda looking forward to Walz wiping the floor with Vance…

  2. I absolutely cannot wait for this one. Vance is an arrogant little snip of a man-child who is about to run headlong into Tim Walz who will swat him like an annoying fly. Just let Vance talk at length. We need to hear ALL his opinions about women, cats, and democracy.

  4. Vance is a despicable, soulless human being, yes.

    But he’s a lot sharper than Trump.

    This is NOT going to be a cakewalk for Walz.

  5. I hope this time, Democrats have the last word.

  6. Walz needs to nail him with “You have always known and still believe that Trump is an unqualified Buffon.”

  8. I’m optimistic. Vance is actually not stupid, and he knows how to debate in the true sense of the word. But political debates haven’t been actual debates in decades, and instead they’re all about the vibe. And Vance’s vibe is as creepy and disturbing as Walz’s is wholesome and pleasant.

  10. MAGA world is 100% certain that JD will win this debate because “debating is his strong point” and refuse to acknowledge how fucking awkward and weird this dude is. Walz shouldn’t have any problems running circles around this weirdo in a debate.

  11. This is the debate where Project 2025 will be at the forefront. Also, Trump’s age.

  12. JD is a very inexperienced politician. He keeps being hoisted on his own petard.

  13. Not sure we’ll survive an hour of second hand cringe

  14. I’d love to believe this to be true. But Trump got obliterated because he was kind of dumb, easily triggered, lies a lot and absolutely lost his charm and confidence.

    Vance is not charming and will lie a lot but I do feel like he will stick to his creepy ass message.

    But now that I think about it, maybe that will be the goal of Walz, let Vance be a massive creep that will turn off normal people further.

  15. Vance is more like Trump 2016. He’s weird and abnormal, but way more put together and less ranty.

    I guarantee that Vance can dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge to a measured draw or a narrow loss to Walz. You don’t succeed as much as he has without some large talent for that.

  17. The only way Walz could lose is if he treats Vance like the caricature he is from the onset. So long as he approaches him respectfully and saves the loveable clapback for the appropriate moments, this is in the bag. They represent two vastly different interpretations of masculinity, and Walz should double down on being compassionate, understanding, and protective of the vulnerable. Vance has to impress his 4chan buddies, so it’s just a matter of time before he says some toxic alpha nazi shit, then Walz can pounce. I think the right approach may be to affirm Vance publicly for his anti-trump comments and stand in as the Dad he needed when he was in his drag phase. *It’s ok Vance, you can stop pretending to be a tough guy, we all know you wanna curl up on the couch with your wig and some macaroons to watch Batman Returns, and that’s ok, just drop the patriarchal nazi shit.*

  18. Not to sound like I’m dooming but it probably won’t be as dramatic 

    Vance isn’t an idiot like trump. More an arrogant weirdo so walz will probably come off as Joe Everyman and sofa king just as a weirdo

    Hope walz offers to teach him how to order donuts though 

  19. It won’t be as fun because Vance won’t say that he has “concepts of a plan” or “they’re eating the dogs!” like other statements that Trump made.

  20. Do. Not. Take. Vance. Lightly. He’s most definitely a little worm, but he’s not nearly as stupid and unhinged as Trump.

    This isn’t the layup the comments think it is.

  21. Brutal? I’m positively looking forward to it!

    Walz will completely torch Vance!

  23. JD Vance is a part of the white nationalist movement, project 2025, and part of Peter Thule payroll . It will be clear and evident by his debate responses on the issues and he’s a huge liability to the ticket besides the Orange turd.

    Walz is going to do a great job of giving no nonsense answers that anyone could get behind. He’s genuine and you can trust him to do the right thing. .

  24. Voters need to realize there’s a statistically significant chance that JD Vance could become president if Trump is elected and vote accordingly. I think Walz will make this clear during the debate.

  25. Vance isn’t Trump, he’ll do debate prep. It’s not going to be a walk in the park.

    However, he wrote the forward for Project 2025, it’s pretty easy and fair to tie it to him.

  26. Hope Tim Walz will give a shout-out to President Jimmy Carter for turning 100 years old that day. He will be able to vote for Kamala 15 days from then.

  28. Has Walz ever done a debate? I think he will do fine but let’s not assume a high skill level.

  29. I don’t understand this take. Vance is not stupid, you aren’t stupid by advancing through Yale law school. I have to believe that Vance understands things whereas Trump literally doesn’t understand what he is talking about.

  30. It will be a lot closer than the Harris / Trump debate.

    JD Vance may be an unprincipled grifter, but he is a lot smarter than Trump is.

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