I’m a pro-Palestine leftist. Here’s why I’m not abandoning Kamala Harris.

https://www.startribune.com/im-a-pro-palestine-leftist-heres-why-im-not-abandoning-kamala-harris/601145344

25 comments

  1. Can’t save Palestine if liberals are being rounded up into Trump’s concentration camps 

  2. Who in their right mind would, when the alternative is calling for Israel to “finish the job”?

  3. Such stupid ideals. Not supporting Harris because of her Israel stance. I want somebody to find these idiots in 3 years when Jared Kushner is building luxury condos in Palestine and get their opinion on how bad Harris would have been.

  4. The Democrat isn’t doing enough to stop the genocide.

    The republican is pro genocide.

    How could I possibly decide!?!?!

  6. I’m sorry, you have the first nominee for president since Bill Clinton who is advocating for a two state solution. As in, world recognition of a Palestinian country. Why would there be ANY abandonment unless the only acceptable path is to dismantle Israel as a nation?

  7. I think if we survive this next year without going totally Orwellian, it’s gonna come out that the whole genocide Joe stuff was part of a deliberate campaign by a hostile foreign government or three.

  8. Wtf is up with the media trying to create non reasons for people to not vote Kamala? The fascists must be getting desperate.

  9. bc Trump would be 1000x worse?

    in this country, you must vote for the least-bad option.

    our electoral system is fucked, that’s just how it is right now. there is nothing to discuss. abstaining just gives evil the opportunity it needs to take over. evil has to be destroyed before we can switch from the least-bad to the greater-good.

  10. Trump’s gonna put a golf course in Gaza if he wins.

  13. Im pro-palestine.

    Im voting Harris

    Dont doom Palestine to Trump

  14. Trump is literally inciting racial violence in multiple parts of the US and is planning mass deportations of immigrants. Republican anti-abortion policies have killed women and will continue to kill women. The man has loudly said he wants to be a dictator.

    I fully support Palestine, but can we please put our own oxygen mask on first? 

  15. Not voting for Harris is tantamount to voting for Trump.

    Guess what will happen if Trump becomes the president?

    You won’t even be allowed to protest outside.

  16. As a centrist independent, I have this advice for “extreme leftists”: even if you’re doubtful of Harris (like me, but for a different reason) a non-vote for her = support for Trump. So, we all have to think long and hard

  17. She literally called for a two state solution. That’s the best we’re gonna get

  18. Conservatives vote because of single issues. Liberals don’t vote because of single issues. Brilliant.

  19. I’m glad to see this being addressed.

    I’m an anti-genocide leftist, myself. I loathe that the Democratic Party is signaling their willingness to continue to arm Israel.

    I’m still voting for Harris.

    I’m voting for Harris because she *might* be persuaded to withdraw support from Israel, or do more to safeguard Palestinians. Trump won’t be. Netanyahu will tell him he’s pretty and trump will be throwing rocks at Gaza himself.

    I’m voting for Harris because her economic plans will benefit all of us.

    I’m voting for Harris because, as a woman, I’m not ready to become a 2nd class citizen

    I’m voting for Harris because I’d like to continue to VOTE in free, fair elections

    I’m voting for Harris because the Supreme Court and Federal Courts are stuffed with trump appointees.

    I could list a lot more reasons to vote for Kamala Harris, but you get the idea.

  20. Most politician, left and right, support Israel in some capacity, but Kamala is better for Palestinians than Trump. It truly is the lesser of two evils.

  21. Harris is the only candidate who has acknowledged that Palestinians are suffering. Our choice is between someone who might actually pressure Israel to ease up and someone who would encourage Israel to raze Gaza.

  22. Can somebody explain to me the thought process here?

    I get it, Kamala is riding a super-moderate position on the Israel/Palestinian issue. She’s trying to champion the future health of *both* sides and literally every time the subject comes up and she attempts to carefully navigate an answer that pisses off the least amount of people, pro-Palestine activists collectively *freak the fuck out* because she gives Israel **any** sort of olive branch, because I guess we’re out here playing the murder olympics and since Gaza has seen a lot more death lately due to the war criminal Netanyahu, I guess Israel citizens deserve no sympathy for Oct 7th or for the risk they face of Iranian aggression.

    If being heavy pro-Palestine at the expense of being sympathetic to Israel were popular, I’m sure she’d ride that wave without any hesitation, but the reason she doesn’t is because the most popular stance on this is a *moderate* one, where both parties come out of this better than before this all started.

    Is Netanyahu an genocidal asshole? Absolutely, and Kamala Harris agrees with this as well. [She ghosted his speech to congress in order to wrist slap him privately](https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/22/politics/harris-declined-preside-netanyahu-address/index.html), Netanyahu wants *Trump* to win for a reason, and that’s why he [met with Trump at Mar-a-fucking-lago](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/26/netanyahu-meets-trump-at-mar-a-lago-capping-trip-marked-by-gaza-protests) to discuss this, and there are even reports that Trump may have violated the [Logan Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act#:~:text=The%20Logan%20Act%20) due to potentially [hampering the ceasefire negotiations](https://newrepublic.com/post/185076/donald-trump-scheme-beat-kamala-harris-benjamin-netanyahu-ceasefire) for political purposes.

    Thanks to this collective low effort assessment of Harris’s intentions with the middle-east, we have disruptive protests at all of her rallies, when the goal is trying to generate more voters to defeat Trump, swathes of voters blaming *her* for not earning their votes and instead promising to stay home or vote for [third parties backed by GOP operatives](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/paid-operatives-gop-firm-helping-cornel-west-arizona-ballot-rcna159675). After West dropped, Jill Stein emerged from whatever hole she hides in for 3.5 years at a time to take the reigns.

    Meanwhile, Jill Stein is exclusively campaigning to [be on the ballot in swing states](https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/polling/jill-stein-could-serve-spoiler-candidate-swing-states-due-support-muslim), and has pretty much only thrown smoke at Democrats throughout this campaign season with a little bonus love for RFK Jr.

    No comment on how Trump would literally let Netanyahu glass Gaza?

    No comment on how she [literally cannot win when she isn’t even on the ballot in several states that do not allow write-ins](https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ballot-map-election-1944838)?

    She is a spoiler, it is obvious and clear as a cloudless day, because if she had any integrity at all left in her, she’d drop out close to the general and support the candidate that **won’t** let Netanyahu **turn Gaza in to a Trump hotel parking lot**.

    It just blows my fucking mind, fellow millennials, that people are this ignorant during a time where we need them most to be smart, and be informed, and make critical decisions with care.

    Talk all you want about Kamala not doing enough to “earn your vote”, but why don’t you tell that to all the LGBTQ+ who are scared *for their fucking life* in this election. Tell that to all the women who are scared not only for their life, but the life of their children and daughters and their future because they’re losing access to reproductive care. Tell that to all the current legal immigrants who are *scared for their fucking life* because if you had your way, the candidate that would win (because Jill certainly will never win) would be [literally deporting them](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-deport-haitian-migrants-springfield-ohio-to-venezuela/) and/or [inciting racist hate crimes](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bomb-threats-force-second-consecutive-day-school-closures-springfield-rcna171043) against them.

    Christ, the selfishness is hard to even fathom, and it just pisses me off to hell and back. Stop being gigantic assholes and make sure Trump does not get back in to power, please. Be critical of Kamala *after* she has access to the levers of power, when it will make a difference and **not potentially in a bad way.** Please get your heads out of your collective asses.

  23. My problem with this line of thinking is, if you show unanimous support behind Harris, then what lesson is the Democratic Party going to learn here? Theyre just going to keep on doing the same old shit over and over and over again knowing full well they’re going to have the support of the people no matter what because they know that as bad as they are, they will never be as horrendous as a Republican presidency.

    If the point of our elected representatives is to listen and enact policy that we want, then why shouldn’t people who care about Palestine not pressure their elected officials to listen to their demands?

    I just think it’s so fucked that we have all just collectively agreed that we should just put up with whatever crap we have placed in front of us instead of having our elected officials who get to eat on our dime try and earn our vote. At the very least, even if it’s a bluff, it’s worth at least pressuring and threatening the Harris campaign to fold over her current policy toward Israel.

    And if Harris loses her election because she didn’t have the votes in fucking *Michigan*, then that’s going to be her own damn fault instead of the Uncommitted protestors. If she wanted their votes that badly, then she should’ve played the game of fucking politics and adjusted course.

    And, to end, I’m going to give the disclaimer that, yes, I’m voting for Harris, because I know at least somebody is going to get on my ass about “but Trump worse! You must vote Harris!!!!” Personally speaking, if this was a fucking normal election with opposition worth a damn, you’d never catch me within a million miles ever actually voting for her, but I’m a single issue voter for queer issues, so I’m fully aware that I’m forced to make a trade off with voting for someone who is okay with genociding people who aren’t related to me halfway across the world as opposed to the other person who is very much interested in bringing the genocide to my front doorstep starting with me. However, I don’t expect a Palestinian-American who has family living in Palestine who have probably been firebombed to death by their own nation to really give a fuck one way or the other what happens afterwards once their elected official took everything from them.

  24. Do they not realize Trump is worse for Palestinians… It doesn’t even seem like he wants a 2-state solution. He’s very pro Israel… And said Arab nations were a problem…

  25. I’m just popping in here to say, my mind is completely blown anytime I read or watch something about pro-Palestine protest being directed at Harris’ campaign. Trump literally said in the Biden debate that Israel should ‘Finish the job” lol.

    I mean you do you… But the only ones you’ll be teaching a lesson to by not voting for Harris and/or third party, is yourselves.

    Shout out to all you Jill Stain Fuckers.

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