Gov: ahh sure we couldnt even spend it if we had it lads
I think a lot of people fail to realise the fundamental truth of how Ireland works:
We have foreign investment here that provides high paying employment – these employees are taxed heavily which funds the state.
The state is then run by incompetents who waste the money and fail to prevent businesses who sell services to Irish people from ripping them off.
If we kill the FDI golden goose we are absolutely fucked.
You can argue about the benefits or lack of benefits of data centres, but this sort of headline is a bad look for Ireland.
We’re getting a reputation for being a very difficult place to build anything, and it’s a deserved reputation. The Government should be allowed set priorities for infrastructure and development, and we need a process to get these things built faster.
Everyone knows you can’t build infrastructure over 15 years of government.
If it was a pharma plant providing 1000 jobs I would be worried. A datacenter is a minimal employment benefit and alot of that investment money doesn’t come to Ireland anyway.
We didn’t get the investment because our electricity grid can’t hack it
Given the risk now around the corporate tax rate and the ongoing infrastructure and construction objections in this county we are going to lose out on a lot of multinational investment and jobs in the future.
Ireland isn’t more attractive than many other EU countries anymore for this type of company.
I can’t believe people here think this is a bad thing. Fuck Data centres and fuck Amazon.
I don’t understand this business-speak. Are they saying the infernal things are going to be *built* elsewhere? If so, thanks be to the sweet living Jesus, they’re an environmental nightmare.
I can’t read the article as it is paywalled. Was Ireland an option for any of this investment? Amazon already has an AWS region in Ireland and regions are typically geographically separated from other reasons to offer some level of physical resilience. Ireland is hardly big enough to support two geographically isolated AWS regions.
probably good news, a data centre isn’t like a factory or multinational supermarket chain (our main sources of fdi) theres not a lot of jobs in it and given the shortage of construction works its probably better that we don’t have builders busy on data centers when we need a massive amount of housing built.
Also to attract fdi you need services, data centres are a notorious drain on grid infrastructure building them seems a lose lose for Ireland even if you want our economy to be built on fdi.
More long term over reliance on fdi isn’t good it leaves us over exposed to the next recession whenever it inevitably comes, we say it in the last recession the indigenous industry (food processing mostly) held up much better
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Gov: ahh sure we couldnt even spend it if we had it lads
I think a lot of people fail to realise the fundamental truth of how Ireland works:
We have foreign investment here that provides high paying employment – these employees are taxed heavily which funds the state.
The state is then run by incompetents who waste the money and fail to prevent businesses who sell services to Irish people from ripping them off.
If we kill the FDI golden goose we are absolutely fucked.
You can argue about the benefits or lack of benefits of data centres, but this sort of headline is a bad look for Ireland.
We’re getting a reputation for being a very difficult place to build anything, and it’s a deserved reputation. The Government should be allowed set priorities for infrastructure and development, and we need a process to get these things built faster.
Everyone knows you can’t build infrastructure over 15 years of government.
If it was a pharma plant providing 1000 jobs I would be worried. A datacenter is a minimal employment benefit and alot of that investment money doesn’t come to Ireland anyway.
We didn’t get the investment because our electricity grid can’t hack it
Given the risk now around the corporate tax rate and the ongoing infrastructure and construction objections in this county we are going to lose out on a lot of multinational investment and jobs in the future.
Ireland isn’t more attractive than many other EU countries anymore for this type of company.
I can’t believe people here think this is a bad thing. Fuck Data centres and fuck Amazon.
I don’t understand this business-speak. Are they saying the infernal things are going to be *built* elsewhere? If so, thanks be to the sweet living Jesus, they’re an environmental nightmare.
I can’t read the article as it is paywalled. Was Ireland an option for any of this investment? Amazon already has an AWS region in Ireland and regions are typically geographically separated from other reasons to offer some level of physical resilience. Ireland is hardly big enough to support two geographically isolated AWS regions.
probably good news, a data centre isn’t like a factory or multinational supermarket chain (our main sources of fdi) theres not a lot of jobs in it and given the shortage of construction works its probably better that we don’t have builders busy on data centers when we need a massive amount of housing built.
Also to attract fdi you need services, data centres are a notorious drain on grid infrastructure building them seems a lose lose for Ireland even if you want our economy to be built on fdi.
More long term over reliance on fdi isn’t good it leaves us over exposed to the next recession whenever it inevitably comes, we say it in the last recession the indigenous industry (food processing mostly) held up much better