This is easier said than done when the population is increasing every year more than it declines, along with there being only so much area in the country to produce food alongside preserving natural habitats and the countries green areas. We are at a precipice in our history and evolotion of the species where we may run out of vital resources to survive in the possible next hundred to five hundred years. This inevitably will cause conflict on a global scale unless we work together to expand our civilisation either underwater or into space perhaps both, yet we continue to fight over which leader is better or which country belongs to which post WW2 state. We could have algae farms on the coast and underwater colonies to breed large deep water fish for consumption, but we refuse to work together!
I’ve been trying to do my bit in cutting some of things I used to consume
Can’t recall the last time I purchased red meat now.
It’s difficult to try and change too much though when some better products are more expensive, particularly at this point in time.
Oat milk as an example cost me about £1-1.25 only a few months ago. Now it’s £1.55 for 1litre.
Alright, excellent idea. British farmers lose out, people still consume meat and dairy, but we get it from abroad instead.
Population increasing, farmers barely making enough to live on as it is, waive conglomerates like McDonald’s who will never reduce their consumption thus reducing their own carbon footprint…
I doubt anything will change at all tbh 🙁 which is what I hate about the human race, as a collective we just won’t change for the better until it’s already too late for such changes to matter :/ I feel sorry for the next generation 🙁
Why would the farmers be told this? Its not down to them in the slightest. They want to produce only the amount people want to buy, so people need to be told to reduce meat consumption by a third and then meat production will start dropping down by a third.
If you want to tell all farmers to suddenly reduce meat consumption by a third even though demand is the same then food will be another thing that’ll go up massively in price. Meat and dairy costs would literally more than double instantly.
So yeah the government and population needs telling, and they already know, so we(mainly the government) needs to do something to speed up the process.
How will British farmers reducing meat production save the climate? If the demand from consumers is still there it will be met by Brazilian ranchers burning down the Amazon to graze cattle or something. That aside with the instability of our current government I just don’t see it happening anyway, there isn’t the political will to make it happen and they wont want to rock the boat with the countryside vote. Can you imagine Boris giving a speech and saying to farmers you’ve got to stop raising sheep and cattle? The media would scream he’s been brainwashed by Princess Nut Nut and every single Tory MP with a rural constituency would submit a letter of no confidence before the week was out.
This makes no sense at all. This will only punish the British farmers as you can’t rely on crops every year considering the climate. Even if every British farmer and person living in the UK went full veggie the impact on the climate would be minimal as you have far bigger pollutants countries and other issues such as cutting down the rainforest.
I know every little helps but it makes no difference when 95% of the World doesn’t do the same. It’s basically pissing against the wind.
Please do. We absolutely do not need to produce the amount of meat we currently produce.
I doubt this will happen. More likely is that lab cultivated meat becomes economic and begins to take over from animal ag.
I imagine once the numbers work out a company such as McDonald’s will just make the switch wholesale. If they can convince consumers it’s fine that is.
Where’s that other article with BP reporting £9.45bn in profits for 2021?
But sure, let’s take out the most nutrient dense & bioavailable foods out our diets, replaced them with .. oh wait, more monocrop plant processed garbage, to save the fucking climate. Sounds legit to me.
British farmers are only partly responsible for global climate change. It seems a bit harsh to lay the blame entirely at their feet.
Completely the wrong way of looking at this.
You get consumers to change their habits – not the producers. If UK farmers produce less meat and dairy then the products will simply be imported. UK emissions are reduced, but globally they actually go up as you have additional transportation involved and the chances are the production methods abroad are more polluting.
How you change consumer habits is another question, but taxing meat/dairy and subsidising fresh veg would be a good start.
Or don’t. Either is fine. It’s all totally up to individuals.
Good news everyone, this is going to happen anyway when Brexit puts them on their arse and we turn all that farmland into empty buy to rent homes.
This country wastes 30% of its food so this brings it down to everyone eating exactly the same amount of meat and dairy they always have.
Incredibly stupid, instead of the relatively low-level of emissions local produce causes, we’ll increase our dependency on food that needs to be shipped in from overseas on pollution-spewing container ships!
Meat will soon become a luxury that only the wealthy can afford.
I already struggle to find minced lamb.
Cut meat productions so we can import hormone treated beef on the cheap from the only trading bloc we can do business with.
How come its only 0.8 C above the ridiculous pre industrial average in 2021?
Because its a scam based on junk science.
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The same people who are cheering for this will be cring when the prices of food continue to go up. Morons.
Yeah, it’s the British Farmers fault. Why not go after the owners of the 10 Super Tankers who pump out more pollution than all the cars combined. Or is that too much hard work?
Farmers have hard enough job of it without shit posts like this.
Honestly, between hormone filled beef and climate issues, people need to start cutting down their meat consumption.
The Uk Could stop polluting alltogether and it wouldent make any difference unless USA and china cut theres considerably
Then let the rest be imported. How that going to help, when fuel is burnt to import the amount we need. Just don’t make any sense.
Let me guess. A bunch of comments saying no, this is evil, cut it to absolutely zero or else?
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This is easier said than done when the population is increasing every year more than it declines, along with there being only so much area in the country to produce food alongside preserving natural habitats and the countries green areas. We are at a precipice in our history and evolotion of the species where we may run out of vital resources to survive in the possible next hundred to five hundred years. This inevitably will cause conflict on a global scale unless we work together to expand our civilisation either underwater or into space perhaps both, yet we continue to fight over which leader is better or which country belongs to which post WW2 state. We could have algae farms on the coast and underwater colonies to breed large deep water fish for consumption, but we refuse to work together!
I’ve been trying to do my bit in cutting some of things I used to consume
Can’t recall the last time I purchased red meat now.
It’s difficult to try and change too much though when some better products are more expensive, particularly at this point in time.
Oat milk as an example cost me about £1-1.25 only a few months ago. Now it’s £1.55 for 1litre.
Alright, excellent idea. British farmers lose out, people still consume meat and dairy, but we get it from abroad instead.
Population increasing, farmers barely making enough to live on as it is, waive conglomerates like McDonald’s who will never reduce their consumption thus reducing their own carbon footprint…
I doubt anything will change at all tbh 🙁 which is what I hate about the human race, as a collective we just won’t change for the better until it’s already too late for such changes to matter :/ I feel sorry for the next generation 🙁
Why would the farmers be told this? Its not down to them in the slightest. They want to produce only the amount people want to buy, so people need to be told to reduce meat consumption by a third and then meat production will start dropping down by a third.
If you want to tell all farmers to suddenly reduce meat consumption by a third even though demand is the same then food will be another thing that’ll go up massively in price. Meat and dairy costs would literally more than double instantly.
So yeah the government and population needs telling, and they already know, so we(mainly the government) needs to do something to speed up the process.
How will British farmers reducing meat production save the climate? If the demand from consumers is still there it will be met by Brazilian ranchers burning down the Amazon to graze cattle or something. That aside with the instability of our current government I just don’t see it happening anyway, there isn’t the political will to make it happen and they wont want to rock the boat with the countryside vote. Can you imagine Boris giving a speech and saying to farmers you’ve got to stop raising sheep and cattle? The media would scream he’s been brainwashed by Princess Nut Nut and every single Tory MP with a rural constituency would submit a letter of no confidence before the week was out.
This makes no sense at all. This will only punish the British farmers as you can’t rely on crops every year considering the climate. Even if every British farmer and person living in the UK went full veggie the impact on the climate would be minimal as you have far bigger pollutants countries and other issues such as cutting down the rainforest.
I know every little helps but it makes no difference when 95% of the World doesn’t do the same. It’s basically pissing against the wind.
Please do. We absolutely do not need to produce the amount of meat we currently produce.
I doubt this will happen. More likely is that lab cultivated meat becomes economic and begins to take over from animal ag.
I imagine once the numbers work out a company such as McDonald’s will just make the switch wholesale. If they can convince consumers it’s fine that is.
Where’s that other article with BP reporting £9.45bn in profits for 2021?
But sure, let’s take out the most nutrient dense & bioavailable foods out our diets, replaced them with .. oh wait, more monocrop plant processed garbage, to save the fucking climate. Sounds legit to me.
British farmers are only partly responsible for global climate change. It seems a bit harsh to lay the blame entirely at their feet.
Completely the wrong way of looking at this.
You get consumers to change their habits – not the producers. If UK farmers produce less meat and dairy then the products will simply be imported. UK emissions are reduced, but globally they actually go up as you have additional transportation involved and the chances are the production methods abroad are more polluting.
How you change consumer habits is another question, but taxing meat/dairy and subsidising fresh veg would be a good start.
Or don’t. Either is fine. It’s all totally up to individuals.
Good news everyone, this is going to happen anyway when Brexit puts them on their arse and we turn all that farmland into empty buy to rent homes.
This country wastes 30% of its food so this brings it down to everyone eating exactly the same amount of meat and dairy they always have.
Incredibly stupid, instead of the relatively low-level of emissions local produce causes, we’ll increase our dependency on food that needs to be shipped in from overseas on pollution-spewing container ships!
Meat will soon become a luxury that only the wealthy can afford.
I already struggle to find minced lamb.
Cut meat productions so we can import hormone treated beef on the cheap from the only trading bloc we can do business with.
How come its only 0.8 C above the ridiculous pre industrial average in 2021?
Because its a scam based on junk science.
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The same people who are cheering for this will be cring when the prices of food continue to go up. Morons.
Yeah, it’s the British Farmers fault. Why not go after the owners of the 10 Super Tankers who pump out more pollution than all the cars combined. Or is that too much hard work?
Farmers have hard enough job of it without shit posts like this.
Honestly, between hormone filled beef and climate issues, people need to start cutting down their meat consumption.
The Uk Could stop polluting alltogether and it wouldent make any difference unless USA and china cut theres considerably
Then let the rest be imported. How that going to help, when fuel is burnt to import the amount we need. Just don’t make any sense.
Let me guess. A bunch of comments saying no, this is evil, cut it to absolutely zero or else?