Must be because of growing demand, so why might that be, Irish Times?
No shit.
We build 80k houses per year in the tiger
Thank you Eastern Europe
Don’t be too smug. For years people here would parrot the Irish Times verbatim. Obstinately refusing to concede anything other than “supply side problem”.
I remember the warnings after 2010 that if the (then) government stops building houses we’d be in trouble down the line….but what do experts know…..
Part of the problem is that the housing targets and estimates of demand have been too low. Ronan Lyons – the trinity economist – has been writing about that a lot in recent years. Basically it has been in council and government interests to lowball so the targets don’t look too high. So it’s not actually increased requirement, it’s increased recognition of requirement.
Then you have an economy that has been growing like heck. All those extra jobs mean immigrants from the EU and beyond – govt issues over 30,000 new work visas to non-eu for areas we have critical skill shortages each year. They’re trying to upskill Irish workers in the same areas but that’s not a quick fix.
Natural population increases and then add in the extraordinary increase in irregular migration – Ukrainians for one, and other asylum seekers to round it out – and you are where we are.
A strong economy is the main driver, followed by a complete lack of ability to take the major steps required to break the supply bottlenecks around finance and construction workers (at this stage we need to be like Australia or the Gulf States actively poaching and importing large numbers of construction workers).
We need a branch of government dedicated to building and engineering if we’re ever to become a serious country.
During periods when we don’t need them building houses (not any time soon) the branch could work on improving infrastructure like our roads, power grids and water systems.
Well, thats what tends to happen when you build fuck all in the previous years.
We built fuck all houses for years post 2008 and chickens are sadly home to roost now
It weird when more people move here than are leaving and birth rate is steady. How strange that we need more houses when we were in a deficit already. I think we need to get Sherlock Holmes or Colombo on the case, down right mystery we have on our hands
This text brought to you by the guy paying his landlords mortgage
Here’s an article I found on /r/longreads explaining why housing shortages are detrimental to literally every aspect of society – basically our lack of housing is the root cause of nearly all of our problems.
This government fucked us up for the last 10 years and we will feel the effects for the next ten years on top of that.at least we will be voting them out of power in the next election and not reward them for fucking up so bad right?……….right?
I wonder what impact having a more libertarian approach would have. Maybe having a little less regulations around things like zoning and bureaucracy could help. It seems these days big projects get bogged down in so much paperwork, NIMBYs and all that that projects either take 20 years to happen or don’t at all
If you vote for Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael or the Green Party then you hate Ireland.
Same problem in the UK but maybe not to the same extent as in ROI. The two goverments need to seriously think about pointing more young people towards to trades rather than university
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Must be because of growing demand, so why might that be, Irish Times?
No shit.
We build 80k houses per year in the tiger
Thank you Eastern Europe
Don’t be too smug. For years people here would parrot the Irish Times verbatim. Obstinately refusing to concede anything other than “supply side problem”.
I remember the warnings after 2010 that if the (then) government stops building houses we’d be in trouble down the line….but what do experts know…..
Part of the problem is that the housing targets and estimates of demand have been too low. Ronan Lyons – the trinity economist – has been writing about that a lot in recent years. Basically it has been in council and government interests to lowball so the targets don’t look too high. So it’s not actually increased requirement, it’s increased recognition of requirement.
Then you have an economy that has been growing like heck. All those extra jobs mean immigrants from the EU and beyond – govt issues over 30,000 new work visas to non-eu for areas we have critical skill shortages each year. They’re trying to upskill Irish workers in the same areas but that’s not a quick fix.
Natural population increases and then add in the extraordinary increase in irregular migration – Ukrainians for one, and other asylum seekers to round it out – and you are where we are.
A strong economy is the main driver, followed by a complete lack of ability to take the major steps required to break the supply bottlenecks around finance and construction workers (at this stage we need to be like Australia or the Gulf States actively poaching and importing large numbers of construction workers).
We need a branch of government dedicated to building and engineering if we’re ever to become a serious country.
During periods when we don’t need them building houses (not any time soon) the branch could work on improving infrastructure like our roads, power grids and water systems.
Well, thats what tends to happen when you build fuck all in the previous years.
We built fuck all houses for years post 2008 and chickens are sadly home to roost now
We need to import Ukrainian builders
[And we’ll vote for them again…](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/554/866/4da.png)
It weird when more people move here than are leaving and birth rate is steady. How strange that we need more houses when we were in a deficit already. I think we need to get Sherlock Holmes or Colombo on the case, down right mystery we have on our hands
This text brought to you by the guy paying his landlords mortgage
Here’s an article I found on /r/longreads explaining why housing shortages are detrimental to literally every aspect of society – basically our lack of housing is the root cause of nearly all of our problems.
https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-everything/
This government fucked us up for the last 10 years and we will feel the effects for the next ten years on top of that.at least we will be voting them out of power in the next election and not reward them for fucking up so bad right?……….right?
I wonder what impact having a more libertarian approach would have. Maybe having a little less regulations around things like zoning and bureaucracy could help. It seems these days big projects get bogged down in so much paperwork, NIMBYs and all that that projects either take 20 years to happen or don’t at all
If you vote for Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael or the Green Party then you hate Ireland.
Same problem in the UK but maybe not to the same extent as in ROI. The two goverments need to seriously think about pointing more young people towards to trades rather than university