Estland signalisiert Bereitschaft zu Präventivschlägen gegen Russland zur Verteidigung der Nato

https://www.uawire.org/estonia-signals-readiness-to-preemptively-strike-russia-to-defend-nato

34 comments

  1. A preemptive strike goes against what NATO is, a defensive treaty. Therefore if Estonia or Poland or any other country attacked no other NATO state would be obliged to support them. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing, based on the fact that it wouldn’t really take too much to topple Putin’s government at this point

  2. Honestly at this point, i would probably back the Estonian army to take Moscow in three days. How far Russia has fallen…

  3. Outstanding, winter coming, it is good time, CHARGE NOW

  4. If Estonia is counting on rest of NATO joining the attack or at least come to defense of Estonia, I would say think twice as NATO was created as defensive against Russian attacking first to member country.

  5. Good.

    In theory, NATO is a defense alliance. But what exactly defense is?

    If right now Russia, North Korea, Iran will begin to produce hundreds of nukes each, and supply them among allies, then, what, NATO officials will just say: “NATO is only about defense, so even when our enemies if strengthen themselves we just cannot do anything with this.”?

    It’s absurd. The same absurd that lead to modern World where only 20% of World’s population live in free countries and most nuclear countries at lest have autocratic tendencies.

    World which was created also by NATO passivity.

  7. Russia would like nothing better than for Estonia to give up mutual defense treaty protections, whoever came up with this cum brained PR stunt needs to be escorted directly to the nearest airlock.

  10. Showing/saying that you are prepared to make the first move is a defensive move otherwise you just don’t talk openly about it.

  11. I don’t think the people that live in NATO want a war with russia

  12. Love the positive attitude but let’s not get crazy Estonia.

  13. This is where it all begins. Defending NATO which is the right thing to do but this is the beginning of a big problem. Russia started it NATO and alliances will clean this mess up.

  14. It looks like the General was signalling that NATO is in fact on board. A preemptive strike, is, by definition, a defensive maneuver.

    As stated in the article, if Russia started plans to invade another NATO country (troop buildup/movements/escalated invasion of airspace/etc), Putin dude, they’re not going to wait for you to hit first, so chill with the rhetoric and rattling.

    That seems like the message here.

  16. Alright Estonia just chill out alright. All we need is Estonia to launch a preemptive strike and then Trump gets elected and lets the baltic states get pummeled.

  18. This is not good. I don’t think people understand what thermonuclear war is lol

  19. Estonia’ like the dude from Dazed and Confused thinking they can get the pot shot on the big bad and the crowd will step in before they’d have to go 1v1

  21. It’s crucial to recognize that NATO’s effectiveness relies on collective action. While all NATO members are treaty-bound to respond (which doesn’t mean it has to be military, mind you) to an attack on a member state, willingness to act and actually doing so will heavily depend on political will in the individual states. Which is instantly the biggest weakness of NATO and one Russia is well aware of. I highly doubt Hungary, Turkey just to name two would get behind Estonia if this were to happen, or in general will actual turn out to be reliable partners in case of a war with the Russians.

  22. An attack on ONE is an attack on ALL. This is a totally unavoidable powder keg. There’s no one named Franz Ferdinand or Unified germany.

  23. It seems like they have been studying the Art of War.

    ‘In war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.’

  24. Imagine if Ukraine had HIMARS to wipe out much of Putin’s troop buildup before the February 2022 full scale invasion…

    Probably 25,000 Ukrainians would still be alive. Hundreds of children in Mariupol would be 30 months older today. Probably 2 million refugees wouldn’t be scattered across Europe and USA.

    When you see the blood banks rolling up to Russias “training exercises,” you strike. We can not play nice with dictators. Estonia gets this.

  25. “Just let me at em, we have a score to settle with those red bastards”

  26. Estonia casually going to casually take st Petersburg in an afternoon

  27. There’s been a lot more talk lately about allowing Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia, and headlines like this – NATO generally seems much less worried about escalation. If I were you Putin I’d consider that maybe this means some folks have been spending the last 2.5 years gaming it all out, tracking all your subs, having James Bond replace your warheads with popcorn balls, etc. and it might be a good time to stop all the evil nonsense and retire.

  29. If anyone is ready to fuck up Russia it’s Estonia and honestly I say we send them some guns and see what the little guy can do

  30. Did not have “Estonia ready to wup Russia’s ass” on my bingo card for 2024.

  31. The Baltic nations do this because they need the NATO alliance to be strong. Without it, they’d be in a really bad place. So they need to be the biggest cheerleaders of NATO power and power projection. That’s their defense. 

  32. The perfect article headline to make Reddit collectively jizz

  33. “All that hate’s gonna burn you up, boy.”

    “Keeps me warm.”

  34. Putin is sorely mistaken if he thinks Russia is getting the Baltic States back.

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