Air-France KLM is lobbying the French government to cap the number of flights that mainland Chinese carriers can make to Europe to protect European airlines from unfair competition.

https://truuther.com/content/europes-airlines-rachet-up-pressure-in-face-of-chinese-threat-1729079584534×846879520182293000

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  2. We will end up building a great wall around the EU. Pun intended. Tax it higher, stop that, etc…

  4. To fly from East Asia to Europe, the fastest route is above Russia. The southern route may take up to 2 hours longer.

    The EU sanctioned Russia, so Russian airlines are banned over the EU, which means that EU airlines are also banned over Russia.

    The airlines wanted to force the Chinese airlines not to go above Russia, it didn’t work, now they want to cap the number of flights.

  5. -Not selling Chinese electric cars -> European car companies can’t compete

    -Biggest tech company of Europe, Asml, not selling machines to China -> Us says so

    -Now rich airlines complain about Chinese companies -> because they can’t compete

    I really wonder when Europe will see that this is killing Europe.

  7. Got tickets recently for about €580 with a Chinese airline, although they had cheaper dates around €520 too.
    The cheapest alternative would’ve been either Air France for €840 but only for a shorter trip and with no checked-in bags, or Turkish Airlines between €830 and €900. Most other options were generally above €1000.

    Just to share a recent example for perspective.

    (I would’ve loved to avoid Chinese airlines and a layover in China. But the truth is, with my budget, if they hadn’t been available I would’ve just cancelled my trip instead of flying with European carriers.)

  8. First it was EVs, now it’s flights. European companies are doing their best to prevent Europeans from getting affordable stuff so that they can make more profit from their higher priced products and services. And then they blame “unfair competition” every single time…

  9. If the French government agrees, mainland China will probably do a tit-for-tat and cap French/Dutch flights… so we’d be back to square one?

    EU sanctioned Russia because of the war and, as a consequence, has to avoid Russian airspace. Mainland China has not sanctioned Russia and therefore has the benefits of shorter flying times (and cheaper oil, but that’s another story).

    As someone who flies EU-Asia several times a year, I generally prefer EU airlines, BUT being able to save 1.5-2 hours on a 12-13 hour flight is a huge advantage, especially when flying in economy.

  10. Because paying double or triple for Asia-bound flights is best for citizens. We should all eat the costs and bow dow to dynamic pricing, for human rights!

  11. Wow wow so unfair! We need to literally BAN COMPETITION so that we can make more profit, that’s how we big European companies do…

    Seriously this is absolutely stupid, they themselves apply the ban for Russian airspace then cry “unfair” when other countries (which have nothing to do with European’s sanctions l) keep flying as usual. It’s like banning your kids from using the bus, now they have to walk to school, then you cry that it’s unfair other kids can take the bus…Europe seems like a lost cause these days

  12. Welllll Air France will have to choose between this and the new tax raise the gouvernement wants on airports (for bullshit environmental reasons, the real reason is that the FR gov is desperate for money)

  13. I could see an argument that China has looser standards when it comes to labour practices (and human rights) and European airlines shouldn’t be punished for being ~~forced to adhere to reasonable standards~~ good people.

    Of course in reality these are just firms trying to reduce competition so they can do the grubby capitalism thing and raise prices/ reduce quality. If the consumer wants to save a few bucks and indirectly support the CCP, that’s their decision. Lord knows everybody on earth does it

    Also don’t forget about the inevitable tit for tat that would make everything harder, more expensive, and worse.

  14. Better idea + hotel stopover + flight over in some nice place for the same price = Chinese can not compete !

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