Because they don’t necessarily understand stuff and just say what they hear from idiot politicians
weil osterweiterung 😀
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Nein keine ahnung warum, wahrscheinlich weil ma trottel sind
Because many of us are stupid
Austria wasnt in a bad position before, afaik the laws didnt change that much. I think it the joining was more of a safety net.
tbh, I’m surprised it’s still that high
Because the question is worded very bad.
“Benefited from being a member of the EU” as soon as you traveled 1 time or ordered anything from another EU country, you already have benefited. But there are drawbacks for some, far outweighing the benefits.
As an example, a business owner near a border won’t think he benefited, when he got kicked out of business by cheaper foreign companies, even though he might have ordered something and benefited there.
This is ingrained in our culture, good things get ignored, bad things get commented on and are remembered.
Many many years of populists constantly blaming the EU for everything bad and stealing (or silencing) the credit.
Because Austria pays more than it gets from the EU, so “we” pay for useless politicans and for “poor/corrupt” countries which get money from the EU for having a bad economic or corrupt system.
Also there are EU laws wich are valued more than Austrias own law, so we cant decide what is happening in our own territory.
I can kind of understand that low number. We benefit from the EU by having an open market with no extra tariffs imposed and freedom of movement for example.
However, we are one of the payers in the EU, meaning we pay more than what we get back from the EU. This is especially frustrating when other nations (especially those who receive way more than they pay – whose money is that? Our money) don’t fulfill their most basic obligations to the EU (having a working independent judiciary, taking in their fair share of refugees, etc.). The common currency is a good thing overall, but in times like these it would be better if we still had our own. The European Central Bank won’t raise interest rates to combat inflation because it would screw some of the poorer states who have higher debt significantly.
Then there are all kinds of stories that tell you that Brussels is just a playground for lobbyists. CO2 taxes for the environment? Sure, but not for yachts and private jets, wouldn’t want to upset our rich buddies…
My image of the EU was very positive ten years ago. Not so much now. It has to change. I would very much like to keep the EU a thing though.
because of dumbness of fpö-neonaziparty supporters and lots of countryside inhabitants
Cause the European ship is sinking and we’re passengers.
It’s slowly taken on water in the last couple of years but now it’s about to go under.
Reminds me of the statistics showing peoples view on science, that shit was shocking
A lot of populists are bashing the EU at every chance they get.
But that doesn’t mean the EU does not give us reasons to be skeptical about it. The EU commission for example is infamous for trying to implement industry-friendly laws that bring clear disadvantages for the general population. Attempts to implement mass surveillance under the guise of fighting against child pornography is another one.
And one other thing that is really a pressing matter for many austrians, and especially people in Tyrol: The fact that anyone from the EU is allowed to buy real estate here has lead to a grotesque situation on the market. People from all over the EU are buying up land, houses and flats while the locals are forced to move away because they can’t afford living in their own city anymore.
The latter one is the main reason for me to be skeptical about the EU, but that, as all problems, must be solved through constructive criticism and the will to participate instead of dumb opposition. I think the number of people who would actually be in favor of leaving the EU is much, much lower than the number of those who are just a little discontent.
Working class wages haven’t risen in real terms since we joined and neutrality has become a joke since joining. There is little reason to be positive for the EU as an Austrian.
austrians just like to complain :>
If you would ask them how we did/didn’t got a benefit out of being a eu member, many wouldn’t know much things.
And tbf I’m one of these people, but i would had answered “dk”. Beside of a free market, free travel (no/less border control) and some regulations on chemical used for food (components)
Wir sind das Tor zum Osten. Ich hab ein Haus im Südburgenland, 4 Autominuten von der ungarischen Grenze entfernt. Dort sind alle Arbeiter arbeitslos. Sie wurden bei der EU Osterweiterung durch die billigeren Ungarn ersetzt. Was glaubst denken diese Menschen wenn sie beim Heurigen sitzen und hören, dass die ungarischen Arbeiter sich erzählen, dass sie jetzt alleine mehr Kindergeld bekommen als sie in Ungarn Lohn bekommen haben?
Und das gilt für alle Grenzregionen. Niederösterreich, Burgenland, Steiermark.
Die EU Reise und Niederlassungsfreiheit ist ein Debakel für Österreichs Arbeiter. Deshalb wählen die in ihrer Verzweiflung jetzt auch alle die Blauen.
Man hätte dem angesichts unsrer geographischen Lage niemals zustimmen dürfen
Because the majority have no clue what being a member of eu gives? Because most are dumm af and have no clue how large scale economy works and they’re salat and fruits are so cheap because of eu? Because most are hippies that think they can grow bananas in their garden and is no need for imports?
Because are teachers in schools that say to the kids they do not need university or higher learning and they should be happy to be farmers?
Mia sudern gern.
Because people are stupid.
Alles teurer
It has a negative impact on salaries.
If you have a low paying job in a densly populated area like Vienna I think the EU even harms you in certain things such as wages due to migration in that sector and higher living costs.
The free market then does not help you that much then. Of course on a global scale the EU does a lot of infrastructure projects, Erasmus, common currency,… but lower income jobs are suffering by these policies.
I’ll go ahead and say it’s because of our neighbour, Switzerland. Both countries are neutral, both countries have close ties to the EU, both countries are Schengen. Switzerland has shown that you can do well in Europe without joining the EU. There are always those voices that fear being an EU member state endangers our constitutional neutrality. They see it as a slippery slope and fear we could eventually join NATO.
Keep in mind that “we don’t benefit from being in the EU” is not the same as saying “we shouldn’t have joined the EU”. People might think it’s for the greater good, even if they think being a member state is a net loss for us.
To be fair, there is also a good number of people on the right wing who believe we shouldn’t be as open as we are to accepting refugees, and they blame the EU for that. I’m not quite sure why this is a thing. Austria has been multi-cultural for centuries. I’d guess that these kinds of people could account for about half of the 40% who voted for “not benefited”.
Because we all poor (€3000 should be normal, yet here we are with €1500~ netto avg). Cheap labor fucked us big time.
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Source: https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/2612
Because they don’t necessarily understand stuff and just say what they hear from idiot politicians
weil osterweiterung 😀
​
Nein keine ahnung warum, wahrscheinlich weil ma trottel sind
Because many of us are stupid
Austria wasnt in a bad position before, afaik the laws didnt change that much. I think it the joining was more of a safety net.
tbh, I’m surprised it’s still that high
Because the question is worded very bad.
“Benefited from being a member of the EU” as soon as you traveled 1 time or ordered anything from another EU country, you already have benefited. But there are drawbacks for some, far outweighing the benefits.
As an example, a business owner near a border won’t think he benefited, when he got kicked out of business by cheaper foreign companies, even though he might have ordered something and benefited there.
This is ingrained in our culture, good things get ignored, bad things get commented on and are remembered.
Many many years of populists constantly blaming the EU for everything bad and stealing (or silencing) the credit.
Because Austria pays more than it gets from the EU, so “we” pay for useless politicans and for “poor/corrupt” countries which get money from the EU for having a bad economic or corrupt system.
Also there are EU laws wich are valued more than Austrias own law, so we cant decide what is happening in our own territory.
I can kind of understand that low number. We benefit from the EU by having an open market with no extra tariffs imposed and freedom of movement for example.
However, we are one of the payers in the EU, meaning we pay more than what we get back from the EU. This is especially frustrating when other nations (especially those who receive way more than they pay – whose money is that? Our money) don’t fulfill their most basic obligations to the EU (having a working independent judiciary, taking in their fair share of refugees, etc.). The common currency is a good thing overall, but in times like these it would be better if we still had our own. The European Central Bank won’t raise interest rates to combat inflation because it would screw some of the poorer states who have higher debt significantly.
Then there are all kinds of stories that tell you that Brussels is just a playground for lobbyists. CO2 taxes for the environment? Sure, but not for yachts and private jets, wouldn’t want to upset our rich buddies…
My image of the EU was very positive ten years ago. Not so much now. It has to change. I would very much like to keep the EU a thing though.
because of dumbness of fpö-neonaziparty supporters and lots of countryside inhabitants
Cause the European ship is sinking and we’re passengers.
It’s slowly taken on water in the last couple of years but now it’s about to go under.
Reminds me of the statistics showing peoples view on science, that shit was shocking
A lot of populists are bashing the EU at every chance they get.
But that doesn’t mean the EU does not give us reasons to be skeptical about it. The EU commission for example is infamous for trying to implement industry-friendly laws that bring clear disadvantages for the general population. Attempts to implement mass surveillance under the guise of fighting against child pornography is another one.
And one other thing that is really a pressing matter for many austrians, and especially people in Tyrol: The fact that anyone from the EU is allowed to buy real estate here has lead to a grotesque situation on the market. People from all over the EU are buying up land, houses and flats while the locals are forced to move away because they can’t afford living in their own city anymore.
The latter one is the main reason for me to be skeptical about the EU, but that, as all problems, must be solved through constructive criticism and the will to participate instead of dumb opposition. I think the number of people who would actually be in favor of leaving the EU is much, much lower than the number of those who are just a little discontent.
Working class wages haven’t risen in real terms since we joined and neutrality has become a joke since joining. There is little reason to be positive for the EU as an Austrian.
austrians just like to complain :>
If you would ask them how we did/didn’t got a benefit out of being a eu member, many wouldn’t know much things.
And tbf I’m one of these people, but i would had answered “dk”. Beside of a free market, free travel (no/less border control) and some regulations on chemical used for food (components)
Wir sind das Tor zum Osten. Ich hab ein Haus im Südburgenland, 4 Autominuten von der ungarischen Grenze entfernt. Dort sind alle Arbeiter arbeitslos. Sie wurden bei der EU Osterweiterung durch die billigeren Ungarn ersetzt. Was glaubst denken diese Menschen wenn sie beim Heurigen sitzen und hören, dass die ungarischen Arbeiter sich erzählen, dass sie jetzt alleine mehr Kindergeld bekommen als sie in Ungarn Lohn bekommen haben?
Und das gilt für alle Grenzregionen. Niederösterreich, Burgenland, Steiermark.
Die EU Reise und Niederlassungsfreiheit ist ein Debakel für Österreichs Arbeiter. Deshalb wählen die in ihrer Verzweiflung jetzt auch alle die Blauen.
Man hätte dem angesichts unsrer geographischen Lage niemals zustimmen dürfen
Because the majority have no clue what being a member of eu gives? Because most are dumm af and have no clue how large scale economy works and they’re salat and fruits are so cheap because of eu? Because most are hippies that think they can grow bananas in their garden and is no need for imports?
Because are teachers in schools that say to the kids they do not need university or higher learning and they should be happy to be farmers?
Mia sudern gern.
Because people are stupid.
Alles teurer
It has a negative impact on salaries.
If you have a low paying job in a densly populated area like Vienna I think the EU even harms you in certain things such as wages due to migration in that sector and higher living costs.
The free market then does not help you that much then. Of course on a global scale the EU does a lot of infrastructure projects, Erasmus, common currency,… but lower income jobs are suffering by these policies.
I’ll go ahead and say it’s because of our neighbour, Switzerland. Both countries are neutral, both countries have close ties to the EU, both countries are Schengen. Switzerland has shown that you can do well in Europe without joining the EU. There are always those voices that fear being an EU member state endangers our constitutional neutrality. They see it as a slippery slope and fear we could eventually join NATO.
Keep in mind that “we don’t benefit from being in the EU” is not the same as saying “we shouldn’t have joined the EU”. People might think it’s for the greater good, even if they think being a member state is a net loss for us.
To be fair, there is also a good number of people on the right wing who believe we shouldn’t be as open as we are to accepting refugees, and they blame the EU for that. I’m not quite sure why this is a thing. Austria has been multi-cultural for centuries. I’d guess that these kinds of people could account for about half of the 40% who voted for “not benefited”.
Because we all poor (€3000 should be normal, yet here we are with €1500~ netto avg). Cheap labor fucked us big time.