Would you take health care advice off someone who can’t tell the difference between a work place and a piss up?
I won’t.
Well we have to end it sometime. And to be fair whilst the omicron virus is no more than a cold for 99.9% of the population we can’t keep living in fear of what is no more than a cold. Just imagine it’s 2019 and we had a cold virus going round and the government demanded testing and isolating those that had it, we would have laughed at the very idea.
Restrictions have to go eventually, vaccines are there for anyone.
Any extraordinary laws should need to be justifiable every minute they are in place. I don’t see them as justified any more.
Obviously. It’s based on Boris trying to move the media on to another story
Rubbish…
Its based on the evidence that Johnson and his cronies were having frequent parties at Downing Street during lockdown and Johnson is desperate to give the country some good news.
Public health is not a consideration here.
One thing that is really concerning me is that the official government data shows a sharp drop in infections whereas Zoe and the ONS stats show a clear second peak happening. Only one of those 3 mechanisms of tracking has changed its mechanism of measure, it feels like manufactured reduction in the numbers.
It does appear that this is not actually fading away and the BMA is spot on about that despite the official government data saying otherwise.
We shouldn’t need evidence to remove these restrictions on our civil liberties, we should need evidence to keep them and there no longer seems to be any justification.
Boring, time to move on, if you’re still scared, stay at home for the rest of your life.
Buzzing to no longer hear about, think about or have covid shoved in young normal healthy peoples faces anymore
Nah, it’s good to be almost back to normal. Just the traveling tests remain to be axed, and I don’t care which billionaire and his political pets invested in what company. Pandemic is over, time to live again.
Politics aside for just one day….
It’s pretty obvious that restrictions will lower the numbers of any contagious disease. If we focus solely on those statistics it is undeniably better for us all to remain in isolation forever.
However, there’s FAR more things to consider than that.
Yeah. No shit. And this who’ll make Boris want to do it even more to show how tough he is. Utter fucking tool.
Covid isn’t trendy anymore, it’s all about world war 3 now. Our populist government isn’t going to stick with something outdated just because it’s, “safer” and, “backed by science”.
Honestly, what else can we do. We cannot keep living in fear of this, the vaccinations are readily available for those who want them. A good percentage of the population has had it so built up some sort of immunity, at least for a short amount of time. What else can be done, nothing, so let’s learn to live with Covid like we live with many other illnesses.
Snore.
Move on people. So bitter the rest of us are having a good time again.
Nice to see the “if you disagree with removing restrictions and the fact covid is a cold you’re a basement dwelling nerd who never leaves the house” crowd are back right on cue.
Maybe some people still listen to scientists, and if the scientists are telling you not to do something – you shouldn’t.
This is half an argument. The evidence says nothing about what we should do, it cannot by its nature.
Scientific modelling can give us some idea of how certain scenarios will play out to help us make our decision. It can do nothing to tell us which values we should prioritise, and how to balance and weigh things going in to that decision. It is next to certain that full relaxation will lead to SOME increase in illness and deaths so it’s not surprising that people working in epidemology, public health, medicine generally are going to point to science which suggests harm. But almost every aspect of human behaviour leads to an increase in illness and deaths, and it’s obvious now to all that the risk of now is not the same as the risk that was 2 years or even 1 year back. The existence of ongoing risk is no longer a top trump card, especially set against the very real risks of restrictions – the mental health damage alone will be profound and felt for generations . We probably went too far before, understandable as we had less of a clear idea of the harms/benefits and couldn’t have predicted the swift vaccine, we now we know enough that most of us think keeping restrictions is certainly too far.
No amount of evidence can ever tell you how to interpret that evidence. Experts in a field should acknowledge that they only have part of the puzzle. Put firemen in charge of public policy, and candles will be banned by the end of week.
It’s poltically unacceptable to say because we like to imagine life is sacred and don’t want to imagine it in conflict with other ‘good’ things, but it is in conflict, and I prefer a few more thousand deaths to societal wide restrictions. Preservation of life is not the only concer.
Amazing how many are still terrified by the media’s fear tactics.
Relax. We’re getting back to normal. You’ve had your jabs. It’s over.
Why would they start ‘following the science now they haven’t followed it all ‘pandemic’, they silenced debate that went against the narrative they want to push and it’s taken 2 years for the media to finally come out and admit that lockdowns, masks, etc did nothing except a lot of damage; which a considerable number of scientists had been saying from the beginning.
I don’t even know what restrictions we have atm. I just play it by ear and have done for a while, I don’t think many people are paying attention to this any longer.
It’s a flu level harm now. Isolate is common sense.
No law or mandates required.
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We are no longer following the science……official.
Would you take health care advice off someone who can’t tell the difference between a work place and a piss up?
I won’t.
Well we have to end it sometime. And to be fair whilst the omicron virus is no more than a cold for 99.9% of the population we can’t keep living in fear of what is no more than a cold. Just imagine it’s 2019 and we had a cold virus going round and the government demanded testing and isolating those that had it, we would have laughed at the very idea.
Restrictions have to go eventually, vaccines are there for anyone.
Any extraordinary laws should need to be justifiable every minute they are in place. I don’t see them as justified any more.
Obviously. It’s based on Boris trying to move the media on to another story
Rubbish…
Its based on the evidence that Johnson and his cronies were having frequent parties at Downing Street during lockdown and Johnson is desperate to give the country some good news.
Public health is not a consideration here.
One thing that is really concerning me is that the official government data shows a sharp drop in infections whereas Zoe and the ONS stats show a clear second peak happening. Only one of those 3 mechanisms of tracking has changed its mechanism of measure, it feels like manufactured reduction in the numbers.
It does appear that this is not actually fading away and the BMA is spot on about that despite the official government data saying otherwise.
Zoe – https://covid.joinzoe.com/data
ONS – https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata
Government – https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
We shouldn’t need evidence to remove these restrictions on our civil liberties, we should need evidence to keep them and there no longer seems to be any justification.
Boring, time to move on, if you’re still scared, stay at home for the rest of your life.
Buzzing to no longer hear about, think about or have covid shoved in young normal healthy peoples faces anymore
Nah, it’s good to be almost back to normal. Just the traveling tests remain to be axed, and I don’t care which billionaire and his political pets invested in what company. Pandemic is over, time to live again.
Politics aside for just one day….
It’s pretty obvious that restrictions will lower the numbers of any contagious disease. If we focus solely on those statistics it is undeniably better for us all to remain in isolation forever.
However, there’s FAR more things to consider than that.
Yeah. No shit. And this who’ll make Boris want to do it even more to show how tough he is. Utter fucking tool.
Covid isn’t trendy anymore, it’s all about world war 3 now. Our populist government isn’t going to stick with something outdated just because it’s, “safer” and, “backed by science”.
Honestly, what else can we do. We cannot keep living in fear of this, the vaccinations are readily available for those who want them. A good percentage of the population has had it so built up some sort of immunity, at least for a short amount of time. What else can be done, nothing, so let’s learn to live with Covid like we live with many other illnesses.
Snore.
Move on people. So bitter the rest of us are having a good time again.
Nice to see the “if you disagree with removing restrictions and the fact covid is a cold you’re a basement dwelling nerd who never leaves the house” crowd are back right on cue.
Maybe some people still listen to scientists, and if the scientists are telling you not to do something – you shouldn’t.
This is half an argument. The evidence says nothing about what we should do, it cannot by its nature.
Scientific modelling can give us some idea of how certain scenarios will play out to help us make our decision. It can do nothing to tell us which values we should prioritise, and how to balance and weigh things going in to that decision. It is next to certain that full relaxation will lead to SOME increase in illness and deaths so it’s not surprising that people working in epidemology, public health, medicine generally are going to point to science which suggests harm. But almost every aspect of human behaviour leads to an increase in illness and deaths, and it’s obvious now to all that the risk of now is not the same as the risk that was 2 years or even 1 year back. The existence of ongoing risk is no longer a top trump card, especially set against the very real risks of restrictions – the mental health damage alone will be profound and felt for generations . We probably went too far before, understandable as we had less of a clear idea of the harms/benefits and couldn’t have predicted the swift vaccine, we now we know enough that most of us think keeping restrictions is certainly too far.
No amount of evidence can ever tell you how to interpret that evidence. Experts in a field should acknowledge that they only have part of the puzzle. Put firemen in charge of public policy, and candles will be banned by the end of week.
It’s poltically unacceptable to say because we like to imagine life is sacred and don’t want to imagine it in conflict with other ‘good’ things, but it is in conflict, and I prefer a few more thousand deaths to societal wide restrictions. Preservation of life is not the only concer.
Amazing how many are still terrified by the media’s fear tactics.
Relax. We’re getting back to normal. You’ve had your jabs. It’s over.
Why would they start ‘following the science now they haven’t followed it all ‘pandemic’, they silenced debate that went against the narrative they want to push and it’s taken 2 years for the media to finally come out and admit that lockdowns, masks, etc did nothing except a lot of damage; which a considerable number of scientists had been saying from the beginning.
I don’t even know what restrictions we have atm. I just play it by ear and have done for a while, I don’t think many people are paying attention to this any longer.
It’s a flu level harm now. Isolate is common sense.
No law or mandates required.