Croatia will procure 50 modern Leopard 2A8 MBTs and deliver 30 M-84 MBTs and 30 M-80 IFVs to Ukraine.

by Sharp_Win_7989

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  1. [Source](https://x.com/deaidua/status/1850927210275688741): GermanAidToUkraine – @ deaidua

    *”Next Ringtausch in progress! Croatia will procure modern Leopard 2A8 MBTs, while Germany will waive part of the costs. In return, Croatia will deliver 30 M-84 MBTs and 30 M-80 IFVs to* [*#Ukraine*](https://x.com/hashtag/Ukraine?src=hashtag_click)*!”*

    *”This would be the second Ringtausch to be concluded this year. Germany and the Czech Republic only signed an agreement in July, which compensates the Czech Republic for the transfer of military equipment to Ukraine for the second time since 2022.”*

    *”Further details regarding the newest Ringtausch between Germany and Croatia: The delivery of 30 M-84 MBTs and 30 M-80 IFVs to #Ukraine will also include ammunition and spare parts packages. Delivery will not only begin this year, but already be completed in 2024!”*

    *”Interestingly, the press release of the German MoD speaks of a “first tranche” consisting of 30 MBTs and 30 IFVs indicating further deliveries of M-84 MBTs and M-80 IFVs to Ukraine in the future as part of the signed letter of intent.”*

  2. Be nice to see Ukraine get 50 modern Leopards also but these should fill a hole somewhere.

  4. 50 2A8 for these erm dated vehicles, well Croatia made a amazing deal and for Ukraine anything amored is a win id think.

  5. I know everyone is shitting on these but with shortages Russia is literally rolling T55s from the 60s. These could definitely be useful.

  6. About the tank from wiki: M-84A4 Sniper (Croatia) – This version includes the all-new SCS-84 day/night sight, DBR-84 ballistic computer and improved elevation and traverse sensors. Croatia purchased around 40 of these models from 1996 till 2003 from its domestic factory. It is rumored, but not officially confirmed, that these tanks have a different engine of German origin, rated at 1,100 hp instead of the 1,000 hp engine originally installed. A Racal communication suite replaced the older communication set. By 2008 the entire Croatian M-84 tank fleet had been upgraded to the M-84A4 standard

  7. Delivery will not only begin this year, but already be completed in 2024!”*

    *”Interestingly, the press release of the German MoD speaks of a “first tranche” consisting of 30 MBTs and 30 IFVs indicating further deliveries of M-84 MBTs and M-80 IFVs to Ukraine in the future as part of the signed letter of intent.”*

    These are no Abrams/Challengers/Bradleys but 30 tanks and 30 IFVs within a month or two, means they can be refitted in Ukraine and put to use immediately after the Rasputitsa season.
    Ukraine has raised extra brigades but these need to have heavy armor.
    Better this now than something (much) better in over a year.
    Interestingly, perhaps a second tranche in the short future.
    60 MBTs and 60 IFVs can make a decent difference, at some part of the front.

    Hvala Hrvatska.
    Slava Ukraini.

  9. These are some decent tanks we’re giving to Ukraine, they will be way better than t-64 or t-72 russians are using..we need to keep feeding Ukraine with tanks, of any kind, let alone M-84, because it’s just a matter of time when the Russians will start bringing in North Korean tanks in hundreds…

  12. Let’s go Hrvatksa!!

    Fuck Russia and Serbia (their butt buddy).

  13. I think Ukraine could use right now about 100,000 NATO troops.

  14. Hvala narode Hrvatske!! Bit će potreban napor svih dobrih nacija da se porazi zlo.

  15. How about another 500-1000 Bradleys?

    C’mon Murica!

    Slava Ukraini!

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