The great orange filter, The tipping point of recorded human history, dignity’s final hurrah, the Jerry-Springer-fication of global culture, “Don’t Look Up”, “there is no climate change emergency”. Last night we seemed to have crossed the rubicon of which there is no return. Any way I look at it. Ai assisted geo engineering or not.
We are now irrevocably in dystopia it’s seems to me.
So.
1 I can claim agency in the fight, or
2 I can give up and live the best life I can. But wasted worry won’t be a good way to spend my remaining years, I think.
I could fight to save what remains? Not the biosphere as a whole. I could go Noah’s arc stylie.
Anyone else feeling the same moment?
https://www.sightline.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2020_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county-772×490.png
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Feeling like there’s nothing you can do, leading you to give up, is exactly what dictators want.
No, this election changes nothing about my original plans or efforts. I know people want to be a part of a suicidal worship pact, but I’m not going to participate. Even if it means resisting against my fellow humans. This isn’t just about us, it’s about all life on Earth.
I’m not, but I don’t have much hope that things will get better
I’m going to be here on this planet fighting for every tenth of a degree. Don’t have much choice; I’m stuck on this planet and don’t have anywhere else to go.
I’ll also note that choropleth maps like that overstate right-wing support because they show land area, not people.
Oh we’re definitely going to see geoengineering.
I got there about a decade ago. I’ve moved on to building my life around the idea that the change is coming and just to be a prepared as possible to ride it out.
So, solar heat, mini-split units, backup generator, extra insulation, earth sheltered home.
I don’t think in the big scheme of things that Trump makes a big difference in the outcomes either way. There was no grand climate change solution coming in the next four years.
One of the biggest tailwinds to cutting emissions is declining fertility rates. As people become educated, rise out of poverty, women gain more rights, and job opportunities become more diversified and abundant people decide to have more reasonable family sizes. Regardless of the result of the election, we should continue to pursue better education and lifting people out of poverty.
we can only prepare for the consequences.
Now compare this map with “did not vote”
it s not that much better in belgium,
it s another good reason to fight harder for the environment.
Never give up. But it’s okay to feel the pain of this, it’s overwhelming… it’s understandable. I cried this morning, I allowed myself to feel depressed and at my wits end, but then you just take a deep breath and you commit yourself to continuing on. There are many ways to be involved, and I believe this will only solidify the amazing group of people who have dedicated their lives to a better future.
Sending love and a hug your way friend 🤗
I gave up a few years ago. I was very politically active for quite a while, all it did was hurt my mental health. I am so glad I did not have children. All I can do is try to survive at this point I guess.
See you over at r/collapse
This election doesn’t alter my plans or determination. I know some people seem intent on a path of self-destruction, but I won’t be part of it. I’m willing to stand my ground, even if it means going against the crowd. This isn’t just about us—it’s about safeguarding all life on Earth.
wait, there was a fight for the biosphere ?
I have a crazy theory that the most powerful among us have known for quite some time that the earth is past its tipping point. All this unrest will eventually serve their interests by getting rid of all but those who can afford to create infrastructure for fortified spaces where life will be more sustainable.
In a world of limited resources, too many people means not enough for even the wealthiest to have enough, and that’s a problem the wealthy would need to fix.
This sounds conspiracy minded and I have never been much for conspiracy theories, but I’m not sure what to believe these days.
No, here is how it’s going to play out:
All of the radical stuff the GOP passes in the next 2 years will get wrapped up and stalled in the courts.
This brings us to 2026, dems have to take the house and senate.
Once the dems have done that, we are back into a Presidential election.
In the mean time, catastrophic climate events will be happening all around us, it will be hard to ignore.
Be strong and fight!
A quote from Kafka:
“Don’t despair, not even over the fact that you don’t despair. Just when everything seems over with, new forces come marching up, and precisely that means that you are alive. And if they don’t, then everything is over with here, once and for all.”
We must keep on fighting
nope. I’m never giving up. in fact, I’m gonna try even harder now to do everything I can as an individual to help humanity survive the climate crisis. I’m not gonna stop unless I literally die
What fight? The very little that has been done wasn’t enough to begin with.
Unless you are willing to do things that will definitely get you banned from Reddit for discussing then yeah, don’t bother, plant was cooked before, now the planet has a nice sear on it like a good steak.
Progressives are going to have to start speaking to each other through leftover manifestos like right wingers do in order to make a dent in the reality that’s marching towards us.
Driving through all of Texas this summer and seeing the gigantic wind projects made me see how despite all the active hate talk against clean energy doesn’t stop even the most Republican states of using it at a large scale when it makes sense. It’s here, it’s getting cheaper. Plenty of EVs, many are even made in Texas. It’s the economics that make new energy successful, and the economics is here to stay.
Not much point to it I think. Unless you’re advocating for violence, nothing will change. The American people made that pretty clear, and without the US, addressing climate change simply won’t work.
If you need faith, have faith in evolution. There have been mass extinctions in the past, as well, but life will eventually fill those niches as long as we don’t glass the planet entirely.
Focus on conserving anything, literally anything, so there will be enough life on the planet to evolve and thrive again once we’ve burnt ourselves out.
Not gonna pretend it’s an optimistic fight, but that’s what propels me forward.
Revolt. Destroy the system and those in power
I am focusing on local resilience. We as a society can’t make the changes needed to avert collapse. People just are not willing to change their lifestyles in a meaningful way. So, I will build community and skills and hope for the best possible outcomes for those around me. I hope that when things fall apart, there will be a window for us to come together. But if it gets too bad, it will be every man for them selves. That would take us back to a dark age.
Don’t give up until we die trying. If they’re gonna try to kill us, we should at least make it difficult for them.
If one is not vegan, they have already given up 😉
The CCP doesn’t care regardless. They make up a huge chunk of ever increasing emissions. If you want actual change go there and protest.
I gave up on the idea that humanity could save itself from this when Trump won the first time. I don’t think Kamala winning would have made much, if any, difference. She didn’t offer much beyond lip service. My only solace is that the planet has been through extinction events before and surely SOMETHING will survive and eventually the biosphere will find a new equilibrium. If humanity doesn’t make it, so be it, it just proves we’re evolutionary failures.
Yeah I’m not super excited to listen to Americans espousing climate change nihilism for the next four years. You guys don’t get to just give up. Sorry.
It’s been a while coming, but this morning cemented for me that humanity as a whole is simply not willing to make the changes we need to save the climate and our ecosystems from collapse. And now we know for certain that any form of systemic change is not coming.
But I will keep working towards a better world anyway.
It won’t make a difference, but I can’t look in the mirror, can’t look at my kid, without doing whatever stupid small things are in my power to at least try to mitigate the worst of it. The ship is sinking, but I’ll still be there with my bucket until we’re underwater.
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