I hear Trump will be building a casino and resort in Gaza.
The only thing that Trump will ever have the ability to nuke is his Pampers XXL undergarment.
While I would love to blame Jill Stein, she wasn’t the problem. Kamala underperformed Biden in just about every single county I saw on John King’s big board.
She just did not mobilize enough voters.
Y’all still not getting the message that giving the finger to your base on this issue is a really poor way to run a campaign?
Late Stage Capiralism will tell you how it’s everyone else’s fault but their privileged asses
The irony. Instead of going for Liz Chaney and right wing endorsements, maybe the play was to get leftists to vote for her instead. But Kamala fans don’t wanna take accountability
Stein voters wouldn’t have made the difference. Even if all her votes went to Kamala it would still be the same result. Democrats have failed to deliver and never fucking fight for shit in a loud obnoxious way american voters understand and don’t lie and propagandize enough. Then made the mistake of running a woman who didn’t have overwhelming popularity for a second fucking time. They should have been preparing another candidate right after the election was called for Biden.
Friend, I’m looking at the margins in votes and I don’t think that even if the Jill Stein voters all decided to vote for Harris that it would have made a difference. Sadly the country has just shifted right.
Kamala wanted to appeal to the “rational right” and she got what she deserved.
America is the only country I’ve ever seen where politicians blame voters for not voting for them hard enough and their bases agreeing with them as if any candidate is entitled to *anyone’s* vote.
It’s insane how normalized it is for politicians to all but admit they will *not* be listening to anything you have to say and that they still expect you to- *demand* for you to vote for them and otherwise you’re personally responsible for their campaign not succeeding.
Elections aren’t “people want this, so I can offer them ABC to win their votes” it’s “I’m offering XYZ, like it or not, but even though that’s not at all what you want I still get to act appalled that I’m not getting your vote unconditionally.”
It’s like flat out refusing to do your job, but then acting shocked and surprised when you’re not getting your paycheck at the end of the month.
Every third party voter I ever met knows their chances of victory are non-existent and they only ever voted the way they did out of sheer desperation. Because both D’s and R’s *refuse* to listen to them. They’re the swingiest of swing voters and can be won over with ease if either party just bothered pretending they care instead of just demanding they fall in line with the program.
Jill Stein doesn’t care, she will now vanish until 2028 comes around
At least Republican’s are smart enough to vote for what they believe is in their own interest. I can’t say the same for Jill Stein voters.
“The democrats should have worked harder to get my vote!” ~third party voters as the world burns around them.
A plus side we can get from all of this is that this sub is gonna be rich in content for the next four years
Trump is about to go in there and solve the middle east problem. Though it’s not gonna go the way protestors want. Protestors gonna be all shocked Pikachu face.
They’ll turn USA into their own Palestine.
Ukraine is fkd
Ukraine and Palestine’s citizens suffering are ending now. Probably not the way they wanted, but still..
no the fucking problem is the 20 million people that didn’t fucking vote vs 2020.
people need to quit deluding themselves into thinking it’ll be fine if they don’t go vote, because that’s how we lose elections. it’s 1 or 2 hours out of your day once every 4 years, quit being lazy and just do it ffs.
now we’re likely stuck with 4 more years of a dangerous dementia patient with hateful rhetoric and ambitions of being a dictator.
I’ve never been more appalled to be an American. fucking shameful.
It’s the people who stayed home, not the 80k Wisconsin voters who voted 3rd party
Those guys wasted their vote too for the record
No, he’s not going to nuke it… He wants to develop the land, so he’ll just send in military kill squads…
Somehow not immediately negotiating a ceasefire wasn’t good enough but telling israel to “finish the job” isn’t even worth criticizing. What strong moral character!
Harris 2024: 64,442,825
Biden 2020: 81,203,501
Yup, Stein made the difference…
Pennsylvania 2024
Trump: 3,404,898
Harris: 3,224,491
Stein: 32,676
Yup, Stein lost it for us…
Michigan 2024 (as of 4 AM Eastern)
Trump: 2,497,617
Harris: 2,181,422
Stein: 25,991
Grrr, Stein!!!
I voted for Harris. Beating on the Progressives for not voting hard enough is misguided.
We lost for other reasons and need to solve them.
Speaking to just number of votes for Jill Stein I don’t think this fits. We should focus our attention on the sheer number of people who didn’t vote for Harris who did for Biden. Last I checked the discrepancy was far greater than the number of votes for Stein.
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As of this writing, Donald Trump has 3,399,081 votes in Pennsylvania and Kamala Harris has 3,224,282 votes. Jill Stein has 32,215 votes and Chase Oliver has 31,684 votes. Add up the two leading 3rd parties and that’s a total of 63,899, which is still less than Trump’s margin of victory of 174,799. Sure, this might narrow as the last 4% of ballots are counted, but will that be enough that 3rd party voters would have changed the outcome?
Imagine blaming 3rd Party Voters despite Kamala running a worse campaign than Hillary, somehow.
The responsibility is on the democrat party and their incompetence, specially when catering to right wing sentiment like immigration.
They fucked up and the people will pay the price.
I refuse to believe Americans are this stupid.
She won 600k votes, it didn’t matter at all
If all Stein voters switched to Kamala, she still loses…..
“Other” voters didn’t cost Harris a single swing state, last I checked.
Aww cute, as if blaming a small tiny fraction has more influence than the actual majority of that country. Add their vote to kamala and trump still would have won anyway.
Maybe if kamala did more then just run as the ‘not trump’ candidate she might have had more votes. The pandering with celebrities instead of hammering down about policies sure didnt help either, but hey democrats never accept responsibility. Just like last time with Hillary.
Because it’s not their fault. Jill steins votes going to kamala would’ve changed nothing
Why should they? Kamala is the one who ran a dogshit campaign.
The tiny percentage of people who voted for stein wouldn’t have made a difference. Stop vilifying third parties for republican depravity.
What state did kamala lose because of stein voters?
I don’t think it’s their fault tho, Jill Stein got on average 0.3% of the votes in all swing states and that was not enough to make up for the difference. It’s the men. Trump’s support is up in nearly all demographics of men. Also I’m very disappointed in white women, wdym Trump is up 1 point with them from 2020 to 2024, like how?
No, sorry but Stein didn’t throw this election. She didn’t get NEARLY enough votes to bridge the gap between Harris and Trump.
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There are far more protest voters who abstained from voting because of Gaza… but same thing. As if Trump wont glass it himself.
https://preview.redd.it/7szrlal8h7zd1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f05c265be0b3dcba1e22ed4d86ab201ff4ceb47f
I hear Trump will be building a casino and resort in Gaza.
The only thing that Trump will ever have the ability to nuke is his Pampers XXL undergarment.
While I would love to blame Jill Stein, she wasn’t the problem. Kamala underperformed Biden in just about every single county I saw on John King’s big board.
She just did not mobilize enough voters.
Y’all still not getting the message that giving the finger to your base on this issue is a really poor way to run a campaign?
Late Stage Capiralism will tell you how it’s everyone else’s fault but their privileged asses
The irony. Instead of going for Liz Chaney and right wing endorsements, maybe the play was to get leftists to vote for her instead. But Kamala fans don’t wanna take accountability
Stein voters wouldn’t have made the difference. Even if all her votes went to Kamala it would still be the same result. Democrats have failed to deliver and never fucking fight for shit in a loud obnoxious way american voters understand and don’t lie and propagandize enough. Then made the mistake of running a woman who didn’t have overwhelming popularity for a second fucking time. They should have been preparing another candidate right after the election was called for Biden.
Friend, I’m looking at the margins in votes and I don’t think that even if the Jill Stein voters all decided to vote for Harris that it would have made a difference. Sadly the country has just shifted right.
Kamala wanted to appeal to the “rational right” and she got what she deserved.
America is the only country I’ve ever seen where politicians blame voters for not voting for them hard enough and their bases agreeing with them as if any candidate is entitled to *anyone’s* vote.
It’s insane how normalized it is for politicians to all but admit they will *not* be listening to anything you have to say and that they still expect you to- *demand* for you to vote for them and otherwise you’re personally responsible for their campaign not succeeding.
Elections aren’t “people want this, so I can offer them ABC to win their votes” it’s “I’m offering XYZ, like it or not, but even though that’s not at all what you want I still get to act appalled that I’m not getting your vote unconditionally.”
It’s like flat out refusing to do your job, but then acting shocked and surprised when you’re not getting your paycheck at the end of the month.
Every third party voter I ever met knows their chances of victory are non-existent and they only ever voted the way they did out of sheer desperation. Because both D’s and R’s *refuse* to listen to them. They’re the swingiest of swing voters and can be won over with ease if either party just bothered pretending they care instead of just demanding they fall in line with the program.
Jill Stein doesn’t care, she will now vanish until 2028 comes around
At least Republican’s are smart enough to vote for what they believe is in their own interest. I can’t say the same for Jill Stein voters.
“The democrats should have worked harder to get my vote!” ~third party voters as the world burns around them.
A plus side we can get from all of this is that this sub is gonna be rich in content for the next four years
Trump is about to go in there and solve the middle east problem. Though it’s not gonna go the way protestors want. Protestors gonna be all shocked Pikachu face.
They’ll turn USA into their own Palestine.
Ukraine is fkd
Ukraine and Palestine’s citizens suffering are ending now. Probably not the way they wanted, but still..
no the fucking problem is the 20 million people that didn’t fucking vote vs 2020.
people need to quit deluding themselves into thinking it’ll be fine if they don’t go vote, because that’s how we lose elections. it’s 1 or 2 hours out of your day once every 4 years, quit being lazy and just do it ffs.
now we’re likely stuck with 4 more years of a dangerous dementia patient with hateful rhetoric and ambitions of being a dictator.
I’ve never been more appalled to be an American. fucking shameful.
It’s the people who stayed home, not the 80k Wisconsin voters who voted 3rd party
Those guys wasted their vote too for the record
No, he’s not going to nuke it… He wants to develop the land, so he’ll just send in military kill squads…
Somehow not immediately negotiating a ceasefire wasn’t good enough but telling israel to “finish the job” isn’t even worth criticizing. What strong moral character!
Harris 2024: 64,442,825
Biden 2020: 81,203,501
Yup, Stein made the difference…
Pennsylvania 2024
Trump: 3,404,898
Harris: 3,224,491
Stein: 32,676
Yup, Stein lost it for us…
Michigan 2024 (as of 4 AM Eastern)
Trump: 2,497,617
Harris: 2,181,422
Stein: 25,991
Grrr, Stein!!!
I voted for Harris. Beating on the Progressives for not voting hard enough is misguided.
We lost for other reasons and need to solve them.
Speaking to just number of votes for Jill Stein I don’t think this fits. We should focus our attention on the sheer number of people who didn’t vote for Harris who did for Biden. Last I checked the discrepancy was far greater than the number of votes for Stein.
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As of this writing, Donald Trump has 3,399,081 votes in Pennsylvania and Kamala Harris has 3,224,282 votes. Jill Stein has 32,215 votes and Chase Oliver has 31,684 votes. Add up the two leading 3rd parties and that’s a total of 63,899, which is still less than Trump’s margin of victory of 174,799. Sure, this might narrow as the last 4% of ballots are counted, but will that be enough that 3rd party voters would have changed the outcome?
https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/
Imagine blaming 3rd Party Voters despite Kamala running a worse campaign than Hillary, somehow.
The responsibility is on the democrat party and their incompetence, specially when catering to right wing sentiment like immigration.
They fucked up and the people will pay the price.
I refuse to believe Americans are this stupid.
She won 600k votes, it didn’t matter at all
If all Stein voters switched to Kamala, she still loses…..
“Other” voters didn’t cost Harris a single swing state, last I checked.
Aww cute, as if blaming a small tiny fraction has more influence than the actual majority of that country. Add their vote to kamala and trump still would have won anyway.
Maybe if kamala did more then just run as the ‘not trump’ candidate she might have had more votes. The pandering with celebrities instead of hammering down about policies sure didnt help either, but hey democrats never accept responsibility. Just like last time with Hillary.
Because it’s not their fault. Jill steins votes going to kamala would’ve changed nothing
Why should they? Kamala is the one who ran a dogshit campaign.
The tiny percentage of people who voted for stein wouldn’t have made a difference. Stop vilifying third parties for republican depravity.
What state did kamala lose because of stein voters?
I don’t think it’s their fault tho, Jill Stein got on average 0.3% of the votes in all swing states and that was not enough to make up for the difference. It’s the men. Trump’s support is up in nearly all demographics of men. Also I’m very disappointed in white women, wdym Trump is up 1 point with them from 2020 to 2024, like how?
No, sorry but Stein didn’t throw this election. She didn’t get NEARLY enough votes to bridge the gap between Harris and Trump.
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