Why Ukraine Is Ready to Gamble on Trump

Why Ukraine Is Ready to Gamble on Trump



by newzee1

8 comments
  1. Because they don’t have a plethora of options? Haven’t read the article tbh.

  2. It’s a well written article. The argument is the old method wasn’t going to produce a win so why not gamble on the new prez. We shall see.

  3. This is kind of silly, Ukraine has to play the hand they are dealt. They may be frustrated with Biden, but they didn’t elect Trump. That’s not a gamble. Americans gambled on Trump and Ukraine has to figure out a way to deal with what America has done. I understand there may be more nuance here, but Ukraine is not gambling, they are reacting.

  4. I tell ya, that’s the first article that is realistic and shows some hope. Realize Trump is nothing but an egomaniac and losing Ukraine to Putin would be considered a major blow to his ego. So, let’s hope for better days ahead because the dribs and drabs and delays and restrictions were not helping things either.

  5. If he goes to Trump and shows him how much resources that Putin has stolen, and promise Trump a cut, I could see Trump making Putin move his troops. Maybe…

  6. Putin is so far over a barrel, Trump could finish him and give lots and lots of refugees a place to go.

  7. When it comes to Trump there might actually be some reasons to be optimistic. Now i fully acknowledge that some of this might be a stretch and am not saying Trump is some kind of knight in shining armour only that there might be a little bit of space for some optimism.

    So this might not be bad for Ukraine and there are a few reasons to think that. Firstly short term Biden is going to pull out all the stops in the next few months. The aid isn’t going to trickle in, what’s left to go to Ukraine is going to be rushed through in the next 2 months, restrictions on the use of that aid could also be lifted. This means that in the short term Ukraine get a boost.

    Thinking longer term, Trump loves legacy, look what happened with Biden after Afghanistan. If trump leaves Ukraine to the wolfs, just lets Russia do what they want then potentially Trump goes down as the American President who let Russia take Ukraine. Or at the very least that becomes how some will perceive it. As such to avoid that Trump might actually want to be the President who was tough and defended Ukraine and as such ramp up support. Unlikely i think but the important point here is about his legacy.

    I believe Trump has also talked about pulling out of the Paris Accords. Now if we park what that means for the environment, Trump wants to lower the price at the pump for Americans. That means pumping more oil this drives down the international price. As such Russian oil that’s already selling cheap gets even cheaper. So with out having to do a thing Trump could cause some real damage to the Russian economy.

    Putin has also shifted his entire economy onto a war footing, simply ending the war might actually not be any kind of option for Putin now. The only way for Putin to end this could be either through full military victory of all of Ukraine or full military defeat regardless of what Trump offers him.

    Trump might not actually withdraw all support but take a stance that actually Europe needs to do more so withdraws some support. This would force Europe to do more in supporting Ukraine so what we could actually see is a shift in the balance of support.

    Even if he was to withdraw all support that might again force Europe to take over. This would give us Europeans two options either we go with this slow dragged out conflict by trickling in the aid hurting everyone over time or they just kinda go “fuck it” and without America holding us back give full support to Ukraine expanded to try to bring about an early end to the war.

    Now I want to end by saying that I know i am being very optimistic with this, I just think we need to wait and see how this all plays out. Yes, i admit it looks bad, but there may be some cause for a little optimism let see what happens.

    Contrary to what this article says, for Russia the Trump victory might not equate to their victory over Ukraine. Far from it depending on how this all plays out.

  8. Somehow in some way I see Poland and possibly nato coming into the picture.

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