The London pub that adds a £2 surcharge to pints ordered after 10pm

by tylerthe-theatre

33 comments
  1. Taking the piss but they can get away with it due to location they will have customers. Most places would be shut down after a few months

  2. I’ve heard this is the best pub in London for late night drinks, does a mean Guinness and has a real Londoners local atmosphere

  3. *Another customer said: “My friend ordered a gin tonic and a beer during the late evening and the bartender tried to charge a different amount as on the menu. When we suggested this issue they tried to explain because the price there is not included the VAT. I think it is really bad customer service and unacceptable behaviour.”*

    I’m aware it’s possible that the bartender honestly thought this was the case, but if not, they’re straight up lying to their customers

  4. This place is always seemingly busy and the only pub/bar/club hybrid venue nearby that I can think of that is open til late, 3am (besides heaven etc) – but this is nothing more than taking advantage of drunk customers. I hope we don’t see more of a dynamic pricing trend

  5. I know this is central but these days going out on a weekend feels like a luxury that only some people can afford. £7+ for a pint is just disgusting never mind the additional £2 surcharge.

  6. Strong contender for worst O’Neils in the city, there. In the 1% of shittest pubs. Like a student bar for thirty year olds.

  7. Best place to head after an amazing steak sandwich from you know where

  8. I popped in here for a wee in the way home and stopped for a pint. It was not something I would do again. It felt like an out of town bar in the 90s.

  9. Serves them right for going in a shit chain pseudo “Irish” pub.

  10. So I suppose everyone getting enraged will be chipping in to cover the costs of all the pubs, bars, restaurants, and hospitality businesses who lose money 4-5 days a week just to stay open?

    It boils down to a simple question; do you want places to stay open or go under?

  11. I’m not defending pubs, but the cost of living on businesses has been absolutely extreme. Energy bills for the most part are uncapped, this can push up prices into the thousands (per month), and the energy companies are blatantly profiteering from the unfair increases, despite spot rates of energy near pre pandemic levels.

    On top of this, you have rent increases and supplier increases.

    A pub is the last entity in the chain before the actual customer. They have little control over the situation. The owners would have done a cash flow analysis and came to the conclusion they either close down as staying open would lose money month on month, or they raise prices to the point of breaking even and hope the situation will improve.

    The only winner in this crisis are energy companies, who are all making absolutely obscene profits at the expense of businesses and normal people. The way energy is being sold in the UK is an blatant scam.

    As a side note, it’s not just pubs that are effected by the unfair energy bills. It’s effecting every small business and many are closing down due to the rises making them unprofitable. This is a serious situation that will only be resolved by the government stepping in. Obviously, this won’t happen, but at least you now know the reason for the price rises and mass closures of businesses on UK high streets.

    We are literally decimating our economy just so a hand full of people can have yachts, super cars and PJ’s. It’s disgusting. I’ve had to close 2 of my business due to energy costs, and a total of 46 people lost their jobs.

  12. Used to go to a place that started advertising its 3am late license on Friday/Saturday nights (prev 1am). Not a big chain place.

    It didn’t advertise they started incrementing prices by at least £1 a drink every hour from 9, half hour from 12 those nights.

    Used to go.

  13. We should all collectively order pints, let them pour it and then say “Sorry, how much?!?” And leave

  14. They can get away with it because we artificially quash all of their competition.

    All of the surrounding pubs are restricted from staying open late due to Westminster Council’s cumulative impact policy for the West End. Other pubs in the surrounding streets can’t extend their license past midnight as a result of the policy, O’Niell’s however is lucky enough to have an old late license from before things got so strict, this means they are one of the few available options after midnight and can gouge their customers accordingly. See also places like The Swan charging £25 entry – stuff like this would be inconceivable in other cities with more choice of late night options.

    We could solve this by liberalising the licensing system and encouraging competition.

  15. Thanks for the heads up. Will avoid like the fucking plague now

  16. How is that O’Neills still going? It was terrible 20 years ago.

  17. I’ll have 20 pints please and make it snappy, it’s 9.50pm

  18. I was barred from this O’Neills for dancing on a table and falling through it. I went back the next week and was let in on the condition that I promised to behave. Within 30 mins I was up on a table again and ejected swiftly after.

    I’ve been back multiple times since and my main take away is you really need to pick your moment for when to bust out your moves on top of the rickety ass tables on the second floor.

  19. Pubs that apply surge pricing will do well in the short term as they are effectively relying on people’s apathy (never mind their indignation) or complete ignorance of it. Long term, however, people will just drink at home, in greater numbers than now, and then we can marvel at even more pubs disappearing.

  20. Supply and demand, I guess.

    But London really is the worst place for a night out. So hard to find anywhere decent late. Give me a provincial town or city any day, where the nightlife tends to be focussed in just one or two areas, where it’s possible to just go out and have a great time, rather than the London experience, which involves searching for it.

  21. Price gouging is now so commonplace in the UK, I’m surprised I don’t see ‘Ripping The Piss’ written on my receipts.

  22. Just want to say, as an Irish myself, it’s a chain of Irish pubs, not an Irish pub chain, and even then I’d argue it’s stretching the definition.

  23. I bloody love going out. I love trying new food, I love catching up over dinner, I love the girl’s bathroom coven formations, I love chatting with strangers at the bar or in the smoking area, I love sitting across from friends leaning in to intently put the world to rights, I love music blaring, I love condensation on an ice cold glass, I love getting dressed up, I love the feeling of being out and enjoying the city and enjoying life. So it took me a long time to realise the below:

    Going out to actual venues is not worth it any more. Between the service charge plus tip in restaurants for decreasing quality/portions, pubs closing when the night’s just getting started, ridiculous prices, good places closing down forcing us into identikit franchises, and now this kind of shit-I’m aware at every point of the night now, how I’m being squeezed for maximum money spent for minimum enjoyment. 

    I’ve recently been to several pubs that years ago were known for being the best type of chaos and great places to meet new people, and they’re so unbelievably *anaemic* now. Smoking areas have security shushing you if you speak above a whisper and heaven forbid you dare to laugh out loud. Drinks cost as much as five times the price they did ten years ago. They close hours earlier than before. There’s no longer dance floors because they’ve crammed the place with tables. Bar staff do the bare minimum but will rush to take your order at the table instead of bar so they can charge for ‘service’. 

    It’s so much more fun, cheaper, freer and nicer to just have people round, stay out til we’re tired, play the music we want, spend very little by getting supermarket booze and food/takeaway, not pay entry, and chat without being shushed. 

    We miss out on meeting new people and being ‘out out’ and that sucks but it’s no longer worth the cost and diminishing experience. 

    Pubs like this are fucking themselves over in the long term. With venues closing at a rapid rate it’s very questionable to introduce this kind of pricing that makes people feel taken advantage of and either go somewhere else or stay home. 

  24. Doesn’t the licensing act require pricing information. Are they swapping the pricing sheet at 10? Report them. Fuckers.

  25. If you read the article, it’s not as bad as it seems.

    If they were to flip the whole thing and offer a discount of £2 per drink before 10pm, it wouldn’t be an issue. The issue is the way they’ve advertised it.

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