Keir Starmer is the first British leader since Churchill to attend the Armistice Commemoration in Paris. Winston Churchill called for a “kind of United States of Europe”

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by EUstrongerthanUS

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  1. A United States of *the rest of* Europe. It is my understanding that in Churchill’s view the UK wouldn’t be part of it, but rather above it.

    >I am now going to say something that will astonish you. **The first step in the re-creation of the European family must be a partnership between France and Germany.** In this way only can France recover the moral and cultural leadership of Europe. There can be no revival of Europe without a spiritually great France and a spiritually great Germany. The structure of the United States of Europe will be such as to make the material strength of a single State less important. Small nations will count as much as large ones and gain their honour by a contribution to the common cause. The ancient States and principalities of Germany, freely joined for mutual convenience in a federal system, might take their individual places among the United States of Europe.

    Churchill never explicitly stated that the UK should be part of it. That in itself is telling.

  4. As someone thoroughly uneducated in this topic – why did no one else from Britain attend?

  7. Macron and Starmer riding on the back of an army jeep like third world dictators is not a good look. 

  8. My husband saw this and said “is that the Macronmobile?”

    Like the Popemobile

  9. I fear the positive changes that we’ll see from Starmer will be too late for the british to notice and they’ll elect populists just like how the positive changes from Biden were too late and it ended up with Trump winning and now will take credit in 2025.

  11. Churchill’s Britain, was still an Empire and he never considered we’d be part of a United European State. He wanted Europe to band together to prevent another war on the continent. Starmer is not, temperamentally, a person who values nationhood. As a Marxist, he sees nation states as anachronistic and believes that the sooner they are demolished allowing true socialism to take their place, the sooner the proletariat can be harnessed to deliver a fairer society. He’s wrong of course. because all that happens is that psychopaths end up take over and through laws that effectively ban democracy, the one party state of secret trials, mass imprisonment and crony government takes over, for ever. See Xi, Kim, PolPot, Stalin, UA.

  12. I like this idea. Could be the solution to our independence and safety.

  13. How far we have fallen. From a leader who called for European unity, to a leader whose catchphrase is “make Brexit work” even though he must know it can’t.

  15. And now they don’t even want to be part of EU. Worked out for Churchill

  16. What… like some kind of union of European states?

  17. It is about time , in my opinion, that we stop our fear to be europeans and start a serious pathway to have a United States of Europe unified under one flag. (The name is a place holder, yeah).

    Being toghether as a federated union of states doesn’t mean we have to put what makes our nations culturally unique on the side. Cultural diversity is actually an added value to a potential US of E, not a limit. People are just so scared by changes that they totally deny the good that would come with it.

    Sometimes i feel like the EU founders had a bolder vision that we will ever have.

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