Public perception seems to be that the “services provided” include quite a lot of “not investigating,” “not showing up,” and “not doing anything about it,” so I don’t know that “eye-watering cuts” will be as much of a warning/threat in the eyes of the general public as he wants it to be.
So business as usual when it comes to policing in London? More automated ‘we took 3 seconds to investigate and we cannot help’ emails!
I did it for 13 years. It’s been eye watering the whole time. Police deal with absolutely everything but crime.
they have bad people in the force so need to sort out vetting first!
Fun fact, we spend the same amount on migrant hotels than we do on the met. So now we get to suffer even worse policing!
Maybe less resources on policing tweets?
What services?
The Met just feels broken. I feel it’s time that a bunch of stuff they do/take the lead on needs to be absolutely bed into a national level agency and (most of) London’s police force should be concentrating on policing London.
So now the met will do “fuck” instead of “fuck all” ?
‘Cuts’ meaning instead of not responding to anything that isn’t a john wick style shootout (even then they’d be 2 hours late) they cut the phone line so 999 doesn’t even work anymore
Did anybody atually want the “services” they provided in the first place? People just want them to catch criminals. And according to the Police Oath this is all they have the power to do anyway. But sadly those at the top have other ideas and have turned policing into a farce.
Well if we provided proper medical care to people with mental health issues, proper social care to people who needed it, and treated drug addiction as a medical issue rather than a criminal one, there would probably be more police resources available for actual crime.
The budget for the Met Police is £3.5 Billion, to police a population of around 9.4 Million people. That works out to around £370 per head.
Comparatively, New York has a population of around 8.2 Million people, and the NYPD has a budget of $10.8 Billion, which is around $1,300 per head (Or just over £1000).
Sydney has a population of around 5.2 Million people, with a policing budget of $4.8 Billion, which is $906 per head (Or £462).
Paris has a population of around 2.1 Million people, with a police budget of €1.6 Million, which equates to €761 per person (£630).
In London, for some reason we are trying to do policing on the cheap compared to a lot of comparable cities. When you consider that the Met has lots of functions that most forces don’t have, such as specialist protection and counter terrorism, that funding per head drops even further.
Is it really surprising that most people’s view of the police is that they don’t turn up or investigate most of the times when they’re trying to operate on a shoestring budget?
> He stressed that previous ways which the London Mayor and Met commissioner had found to bring in more revenue, such as selling police stations and raiding reserves, had “run out”
This was the equivalent of saying: “yeah bro just put it on the credit card, we will deal with it later”
I remember the announcement of what I would say was “eye-watering” closures of police stations when I was in the Met back in the mid/late 2010s. Huge backlash from the Rank and File and also importantly local communities. Closing down stations really eroded pretty much all community policing and also local trust in the Police. It removed, in my opinion, the human face of the police in London.
The worst thing is buying back these stations/building new ones in the future will be incredibly expensive. Especially as need will perpetually increase.
The policing in my third world city is better than the MET’s, so I don’t see these cuts making much of a difference in the everyday lives of Londoners.
One of my friends is being stalked and has multiple recordings of the guy making death threats and the MET does nothing.
Have had one friend whose house was burgled and another whose car windows were smashed and his laptop taken and the MET does nothing.
Isn’t London one of the most surveilled cities in the world? What is even the point.
Learn to defend yourself I guess then
What’s left to cut? I hoped when labour got in we’d see more spending on public services, but so far they’ve just been tory lite.
Who is he kidding? They don’t provide any service. They’re useless.
So, the bottom line is, just don’t be a victim of crime.
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Public perception seems to be that the “services provided” include quite a lot of “not investigating,” “not showing up,” and “not doing anything about it,” so I don’t know that “eye-watering cuts” will be as much of a warning/threat in the eyes of the general public as he wants it to be.
So business as usual when it comes to policing in London? More automated ‘we took 3 seconds to investigate and we cannot help’ emails!
I did it for 13 years. It’s been eye watering the whole time. Police deal with absolutely everything but crime.
they have bad people in the force so need to sort out vetting first!
Fun fact, we spend the same amount on migrant hotels than we do on the met. So now we get to suffer even worse policing!
Maybe less resources on policing tweets?
What services?
The Met just feels broken. I feel it’s time that a bunch of stuff they do/take the lead on needs to be absolutely bed into a national level agency and (most of) London’s police force should be concentrating on policing London.
So now the met will do “fuck” instead of “fuck all” ?
‘Cuts’ meaning instead of not responding to anything that isn’t a john wick style shootout (even then they’d be 2 hours late) they cut the phone line so 999 doesn’t even work anymore
Did anybody atually want the “services” they provided in the first place? People just want them to catch criminals. And according to the Police Oath this is all they have the power to do anyway. But sadly those at the top have other ideas and have turned policing into a farce.
Well if we provided proper medical care to people with mental health issues, proper social care to people who needed it, and treated drug addiction as a medical issue rather than a criminal one, there would probably be more police resources available for actual crime.
The budget for the Met Police is £3.5 Billion, to police a population of around 9.4 Million people. That works out to around £370 per head.
Comparatively, New York has a population of around 8.2 Million people, and the NYPD has a budget of $10.8 Billion, which is around $1,300 per head (Or just over £1000).
Sydney has a population of around 5.2 Million people, with a policing budget of $4.8 Billion, which is $906 per head (Or £462).
Paris has a population of around 2.1 Million people, with a police budget of €1.6 Million, which equates to €761 per person (£630).
In London, for some reason we are trying to do policing on the cheap compared to a lot of comparable cities. When you consider that the Met has lots of functions that most forces don’t have, such as specialist protection and counter terrorism, that funding per head drops even further.
Is it really surprising that most people’s view of the police is that they don’t turn up or investigate most of the times when they’re trying to operate on a shoestring budget?
> He stressed that previous ways which the London Mayor and Met commissioner had found to bring in more revenue, such as selling police stations and raiding reserves, had “run out”
This was the equivalent of saying: “yeah bro just put it on the credit card, we will deal with it later”
I remember the announcement of what I would say was “eye-watering” closures of police stations when I was in the Met back in the mid/late 2010s. Huge backlash from the Rank and File and also importantly local communities. Closing down stations really eroded pretty much all community policing and also local trust in the Police. It removed, in my opinion, the human face of the police in London.
The worst thing is buying back these stations/building new ones in the future will be incredibly expensive. Especially as need will perpetually increase.
The policing in my third world city is better than the MET’s, so I don’t see these cuts making much of a difference in the everyday lives of Londoners.
One of my friends is being stalked and has multiple recordings of the guy making death threats and the MET does nothing.
Have had one friend whose house was burgled and another whose car windows were smashed and his laptop taken and the MET does nothing.
Isn’t London one of the most surveilled cities in the world? What is even the point.
Learn to defend yourself I guess then
What’s left to cut? I hoped when labour got in we’d see more spending on public services, but so far they’ve just been tory lite.
Who is he kidding? They don’t provide any service. They’re useless.
So, the bottom line is, just don’t be a victim of crime.
Sadiq Khan’s vision for London comes true
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