Britain’s immigration surge ‘bigger than all other rich nations’

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1. Prop up the GDP by accepting a 700,000 migrants a year and claim your doing a great job politically while all the services are stretched to the absolute limit.

2. >“These high flows have fuelled widespread concern about migrants’ impact on receiving countries’ economies and societies, putting migration management and border control at the top of political agendas and the centre of voters’ interests in 2024 elections.”

   Well, good thing for these voters that [visas issued](https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/monthly-entry-clearance-visa-applications/monthly-monitoring-of-entry-clearance-visa-applications) have come down sharply since November last year and student visas have [dropped by 18%](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/10/overseas-foreign-visa-home-office-net-migration-tory-labour/) this academic year as well.

3. Labour are going to try and sell a reduction to 500k as a “win” and them solving the immigration problem and go on to lose the next election.

4. The article is about “permanent-type” migrants, *A total of 746,900 new “permanent-type” migrants moved to the UK,* the number does not include refugee, asylum seekers or even students.

   Its definition also in the article is

   >The OECD’s definition of “permanent-type” immigration typically includes workers and their relatives, but not students or refugees from Ukraine, who are considered temporary residents.

5. I say this as a lefty that voted Labour. Labour needs to get immigration under control or we’re gonna be seeing a Reform government

6. Have you seen Escape from New York? That’s what the UK is. Europe’s penal colony 

7. This is what you get when you trust your immigration policy to the tories.

8. No government has ever had a mandate for this profound demographic and cultural change. New Labour’s 1997 election manifesto _barely mentioned_ migration (at the time the UK had pretty restrictive border control, it was assumed that that strictness would continue and it was **not** a major topic at all in that 97′ GE) and yet they oversaw a transformational period of [mass immigration ](https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qh0zf)

   * In 2023, **31.8%** [of all live births](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/parentscountryofbirthenglandandwales/2023) were to non-UK-born mothers in England and Wales, and **37.3%** of live births were to parents where either one or both were born outside the UK (bear in mind – this is for births to *foreign-born* parents, and does not include 2nd or 3rd gen migrants). In London, **67.4%** of live births are to foreign-born mothers.
   * In primary schools **37.4%** [of pupils ](https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-pupils-and-their-characteristics)have an ethnic minority background (in England and Wales), this is up from around **19%** in 2003, twenty years ago.

9. You can still get decent odds on Farage being the next PM

10. Misleading. The US and a number of countries on that list are still taking more migrants per capita than we are for example. All this is comparing is the difference between 2022 and 2023 per country. If you for example take 1 migrant in 2022 then 3 migrants in 2023, your increase would be 200%, and you would have an immigration surge ‘bigger than all other rich nations’.

    UK net migration per 1000 people in 2023 was 2.24. US net migration per 1000 people in 2023 2.748. Australia, 5.173. South Korea, 0.39. There’s your top four countries from the article, yet the net migration stats paint a completely different picture about migration, don’t they?

11. I mean it’s no surprise considering every Government in the last 30 years has used immigrants to prop up the economy

12. Sounds like bullshit. The US gets far higher bulk numbers for obvious reasons, and if we are talking per capita then you only need to look to to your closest neighbour in Ireland, who had 141,000 last year in a nation of 5mn. For the UK to match that per capita, you would need about 2mn immigrants per year – at 1.22mn, you’re only a little over half that number.

    Edit – also, why are they saying Britain but appear to be referring to UK numbers? Do they know the difference? 

13. People need to wake up to the reason why.

    UK’s Population model is fucked (top heavy) with a low birth rate.

    We have too many 50yo+ and not enough <50yo. The only way to fix this short term is to bring in working age people from abroad. We are not having enough children. Each couple should be making 2-3 children to support them in later life (taxes). The current UK birth rate is 1.5.

    Nothing is being done with regards to making having a home and a family easier or more attainable. The opposite has happened, 14 years of decline and our average UK wage is pathetic, so it feels like we don’t have enough to live comfortably.

14. Shan’t be a rich country for long should this madness continue

15. We never should have let the rest of the world know about Greggs, it’s no sodding wonder they’re all coming here.

16. We need to start having those immigrants leave at this point. The pressure on the system, and demographic change is too much. 

17. How difficult is it to emigrate from the UK these days anyways? It keeps crossing my mind.

18. The increase in immigration stems from the fact we’re an exceptionally growth focused country and the only way you can do that in the current environment is just open the doors. We don’t need to grow as a country. We’re a tiny island with a relatively moderate population. A few years of no growth economically whilst our public services catch up is the best thing we could do. You have reduced immigration which reduces some of the awful things we’ve seen of late and you also have people who start to see the country improving. Its a no brainer to just stop growing for a bit.

19. Not to forget the gift that keeps on giving from Tony/Cherie Blair.

    The Human Rights Act.

    It’s used on an industrial scale by ambulance chasing lawyers to frustrate the deportation of migrants who but for this legislation would have been deported long since.

    This act and our recognition of the ECHR will be one of the central arguments at the next election.

    Good luck to Labour winning the next election with the defence of that shambles to the voters.

20.  It’s ok we’ve left the eu so we can control our borders apparently.

21. The ‘brazilification’ of the uk continues and its a political time bomb that will go nuclear in about 20 years. Buckle up everyone, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

22. Bait and switch. That’s what the Tories were doing! People fell for it for 10 years.

    Now for Labour to do their bait and switch and hope no one notices.

23. This isn’t true. Immigration is at a record low. Down to. 100 a month.

    Evidence: brexiters told me that is what Brexit would deliver

24. Wrong Canada has far higher immigration. Ireland and Australia also have much higher per capita rates

25. I am a labour supporter through and through, however if they do not sort the problem I will vote reform in the next election. I know of a significant number of people who will do the same.

26. “Surge” meanwhile over the last years numbers have kept decreasing, no?

    And the figures cited are all migrations, including people who marry, get study and work visas etc.

    “The most common” origin country is India and that figure is from 2022.

    Where are the news? “Migration is happening and lots of people move around the world, consequently also being employed somewhere to pay taxes, y’know?” Is the entire content of this article. Peppered with some Nigel Farage here and subtle “they’re stealing your job” undertones.

    Really weak, expected more high class rubbish from this rag paper.

    Also to quote u/removekarling :

    “Misleading. The US and a number of countries on that list are still taking more migrants per capita than we are for example. All this is comparing is the difference between 2022 and 2023 per country. If you for example take 1 migrant in 2022 then 3 migrants in 2023, your increase would be 200%, and you would have an immigration surge ‘bigger than all other rich nations’.

    UK net migration per 1000 people in 2023 was 2.24. US net migration per 1000 people in 2023 2.748. Australia, 5.173. South Korea, 0.39. There’s your top four countries from the article, yet the net migration stats paint a completely different picture about migration, don’t they?”

27. Immigration should be like a job opportunity. Take in what we need, turn down what we don’t.

28. Good I suppose. Someone has to bail out the UK from the financial disaster it may become by paying taxes

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