Are Trump voters morally responsible for the harms that will follow from his policies?

https://www.abc.net.au/religion/jessica-wolfendale-moral-responsibility-trump-voters/104584970

40 comments
  1. If I get pulled over by a cop, ignorance of the law is not an adequate defense for why I broke the law.

    I take the same approach to voting. Ignorance of a candidate’s policies may absolve you to a point but you should still shoulder at least some of the moral blame for that shit.

    I mean come on. You vote once every 4 years. It’s not that big of an ask to devote 10-15 minutes once every 4 years to have a quick read of people’s policies

  2. News flash: they won’t care unless it impacts them directly.

  3. They wanted it so here it comes. Yeah they’re responsible… Obviously… I didn’t vote for the guy…

  4. Absolutely.

    He’s been in the public eye 24/7 since 2016.

    They know exactly who and what they voted for.

  5. Of course. Their ignorance is responsible for the carnage to follow.

    If you put a loaded gun in a baby’s crib, are you responsible if the baby squeezes the trigger?

  6. Absolutely, including the influencers, like Rogan, that pushed him. Have any of them expressed *any* concern over an alleged sex trafficker being AG, because I haven’t heard it?

  7. The quick answer: yes.

    The full (and depressing) answer: 

    yes, but they are generally unable to logically connect these actions of Trump to an outcome of their collective vote. So in the same way an infant isn’t strictly responsible for the outcome if they shove a fork in an electrical outlet – no.

  8. Yes. I was more sympathetic in the past, but holy shit, this time around it could not have been more clearly telegraphed that this guy is a pyscho.

  9. Yep. They had plenty of time to research. So either they voted based on sound bites and optics or voted because they agreed. Either way, the voters are 100% responsible this time.

  10. When Trump voters say MAGA the ‘G’ in their minds stands for ‘Great’

    When Trump and his team use the term the ‘G’ clearly stands for ‘Gutted’.

  11. 100%, they knew the warnings, what he represents, and they still voted for him.

  12. Yes. If someone tells you not to do something stupid or dangerous and you hurt yourself anyways, you have no one to blame but yourself

  13. If you vote to let a three year-old drive a car and that car crashes, yeah, you’re responsible.

    And even worse, you’ve watched that three year-old crash a car before. And the three-year-old even told you that they were gonna crash the car.

    Fully responsible.

  14. Yep, I’ve straight up said this to my mom. I get 2016 you might have been duped, but there’s no excuse for choosing him in 2020 and especially in 2024. I said to her when all goes to shit that I will absolutely blame her even though we live in a Blue state. It’s the principle, and everyday I’m finding it more and more difficult to allow her in our lives. Like, I love you mom, but this wasn’t about political differences. This was more than that and you simply chose the wrong side of history. I can’t associate with someone that literally fucked over our democracy, mine and my kids futures, and the overall well-being and prosperity for all people of this nation. All for the price of eggs and gas which suspiciously has gone down drastically in the last few weeks. I guess we paid for all those Trump PAC donations from Big Oil.

  15. Yes, as are every eligible voter who didn’t vote. It’s not like Trump’s an unknown or was trying all that hard to appear to have changed and to be presenting sensible new policies.

  16. Yes. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Those actions also include the responsibility to educate yourself and make informed decisions before voting.

  17. Yes. They had all of the information available to them. They decided to choose this. They shouldn’t have to be explained to like fucking babies

  18. Trump is arguably the most morally bankrupt person who ever became president of the US. The voters said: I don’t care if he’s corrupt, if he doesn’t pay his taxes, if he rapes women, if he doesn’t accept election results, if he continuously lies, if he tries to stage a coup. As long as he lowers the taxes. I don’t think this is the right attitude in a democracy that needs morally high standing politicians and critical and well informed citizens, both of which don’t seem present anymore. Anyway, someone will pay the bill. It won’t be the 1%.

  19. Dumb idiot voters brought this on all of us.
    Fuck them all.

  20. On the one hand: Yes.
    On the other hand they don’t seem to have any morals, so I don’t know how it would apply.

  21. It would be one thing if Trump got in power, then abruptly changed his plans; but in this case, it was clear how insane and evil he was, and the right voted for him anyway. It won’t mean anything, but at some point, I hope those people understand just how much they hurt the country; and how they are responsible for the death and destruction Trump causes.

  22. Yes. We had a lot of people claim, after Jan 6, that there was no way they could have predicted this outcome and that Trump’s poor choices were not their responsibility. This wasn’t true the first time and won’t be true this time either. You enabled this timeline and any consequences of a Trump presidency, blood and all, is on your hands.

  23. If you vote for someone and they go all Season 8 Daenerys Targaryen and burn Kings Landing to the ground out of the blue? No, I don’t think you are morally responsible for that.

    If you vote for someone that does exactly what they said they’d do, what people who worked for them previously said they’d do, and what their political opponents said that they’d do then you 100% own that shit.

  24. I have been quiet about politics since Trump won the Presidency. When all of my MAGA friends, family and coworkers start complaining… my only rebuttal will be… This is what you voted for.

  25. Yes. And I’m tired of people saying “They voted for gas prices and eggs.” That’s bullshit and a cop-out. They voted for all the horrible stuff like racism, homophobia and misogyny, they just claim gas prices and eggs because it sounds more reasonable and less horrible than the real reasons.

  26. I’ll go one step further. Registered voters that sat out share responsibility too. Failed their civic duty.

  27. 1000000% I have the deepest disdain and disgust for them and will hold a grudge until the end of time. What they have done is unconscionable.

  28. ABSOLUTELY, not because they were ignorants but because they were fully aware, they just believed that they will not be impacted.

  29. Same way Germans were responsible for the holocaust. You support evil that’s in plain view, you eventually pay the price.

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