That’s quite lot of money – more than PhD students in the UK get for instance, and not too far from what many jobs pay.
Care leavers often are basically abandoned and when you factor in rent this is a good idea. Hopefully it will go hand in hand with more support.
Don’t know enough about UBI to have an opinion on it but this seems like a very pallitable approach to some of the basic principles. Something that could realistically be rolled out in other countries too if successful. Big fan.
The most interesting point is the article seems to suggest this is on top of any employment income. So if the recipient is working full-time, even in a minimum wage job, they are going to be receiving about £3k a month, or about the equivalent of a £36k salary.
Incredible that there’s people against this.
Let’s not forget these are kids who are either without family or who had family that were abusive and they have no safety net.
If this helps them to save for a deposit, train for a job or even give them a little comfort after being born in a situation that isn’t their fault then fantastic.
Care leavers are over represented in the homeless and prison population. Outcomes for kids who grew up in care are generally poor. I think this is a really great idea. Wonder what the impact will be.
It will be taxed? Maybe that makes sense on a differential view, but the whole point of UBI is that it is not taxed.
My dad has been a Foster carer for 10 years and is currently a carer and I’m very proud of him I’ve met lots of children go through the care and foster system. So take that with a grain of salt when I say I’m against these scheme,as it is a cost saving measure and a way to sherkoff local authorities duty of care that they have to these young people.
Over 60% or these children have suffered neglect or abuse, around 57% have special educational needs (x4 the average), over 50% of children have a diagnosised mental illness. This number is likely to be much much higher due to lack of services to diagnosis while they are in care.
Children in care performan much worse at GCSE level than non care children, and their higher education suffers. Only 9% will go onto university, compared to 50% of non care childern. Around 40% are NEET, around 6% are in training or education and 20% go missing after leaving care, along with a greater risk of homeless, drug addiction and the majority lack any support structure remaining in their old environment.
People are going to see this as free money being handed out to people who need support in and after care more than, when in fact it’s about half the money that providing the level of support most childern will need would cost local authorities each month, (mental health support, residential care, social workers etc) and allow people to be transferring responsibly from local authorities to these children, I’d suspect the majority of whom aren’t able to function independently, and whos future prospects will be worse under this system.
That’s more then I make in a fucking month if it’s really busy! I don’t have anything against care leavers getting it. I just hope that one day, we all get this. After rent, that is likely to leave them with a grand or less depending on location. UBI will never happen because it would benefit the general public and the government hates the idea of the general public benefiting unless it helps them in elections.
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That’s quite lot of money – more than PhD students in the UK get for instance, and not too far from what many jobs pay.
Care leavers often are basically abandoned and when you factor in rent this is a good idea. Hopefully it will go hand in hand with more support.
Don’t know enough about UBI to have an opinion on it but this seems like a very pallitable approach to some of the basic principles. Something that could realistically be rolled out in other countries too if successful. Big fan.
The most interesting point is the article seems to suggest this is on top of any employment income. So if the recipient is working full-time, even in a minimum wage job, they are going to be receiving about £3k a month, or about the equivalent of a £36k salary.
Incredible that there’s people against this.
Let’s not forget these are kids who are either without family or who had family that were abusive and they have no safety net.
If this helps them to save for a deposit, train for a job or even give them a little comfort after being born in a situation that isn’t their fault then fantastic.
Care leavers are over represented in the homeless and prison population. Outcomes for kids who grew up in care are generally poor. I think this is a really great idea. Wonder what the impact will be.
It will be taxed? Maybe that makes sense on a differential view, but the whole point of UBI is that it is not taxed.
My dad has been a Foster carer for 10 years and is currently a carer and I’m very proud of him I’ve met lots of children go through the care and foster system. So take that with a grain of salt when I say I’m against these scheme,as it is a cost saving measure and a way to sherkoff local authorities duty of care that they have to these young people.
Over 60% or these children have suffered neglect or abuse, around 57% have special educational needs (x4 the average), over 50% of children have a diagnosised mental illness. This number is likely to be much much higher due to lack of services to diagnosis while they are in care.
Children in care performan much worse at GCSE level than non care children, and their higher education suffers. Only 9% will go onto university, compared to 50% of non care childern. Around 40% are NEET, around 6% are in training or education and 20% go missing after leaving care, along with a greater risk of homeless, drug addiction and the majority lack any support structure remaining in their old environment.
People are going to see this as free money being handed out to people who need support in and after care more than, when in fact it’s about half the money that providing the level of support most childern will need would cost local authorities each month, (mental health support, residential care, social workers etc) and allow people to be transferring responsibly from local authorities to these children, I’d suspect the majority of whom aren’t able to function independently, and whos future prospects will be worse under this system.
That’s more then I make in a fucking month if it’s really busy! I don’t have anything against care leavers getting it. I just hope that one day, we all get this. After rent, that is likely to leave them with a grand or less depending on location. UBI will never happen because it would benefit the general public and the government hates the idea of the general public benefiting unless it helps them in elections.