If people refuse to work they WILL lose their benefits, insists Labour as Starmer’s vows to crack down on huge welfare bill is branded a ‘hollow promise’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14119947/Cabinet-minister-young-people-benefits-jobs-training-Starmer-welfare.html
Posted by jefferymr15
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Isn’t this already meant to be the case?
Pretty sure this was already the case so what exactly is it different when compared to the last 40 years
A ‘HUGE’ welfare bill says the Daily Mail whose holding company is registered in Jersey and owns a Bermuda registered newspaper all to avoid UK taxation whilst being owned by the current non-dom Lord Rothermere who dodged about 600 million in inheritance taxes when his Father died.
As for the UK’s welfare bill. It was 243b in 2021/22 and the largest slice of that is the state Pension. Actual unemployment is about 50% of the Universal Credit spend which is a total of 38.6b but 50% of those recipients are in work, but are paid so poorly that the state has to top up their income so they can survive). So that 19 billion going to unemployed people and 19 billion is being given as a free bonus to the private sector by the Tories who brought in UC so they could help their mates save some cash by underpaying their workers.
But lets not look at Tax Avoidance by the City eh, Tax Justice Network estimated in 2020 that the UK was responsible for approx 75 billion of the worlds estimated 245 billion in dodged taxes that year.
So, we are giving about 19B a year to the unemployed and another 40B a year to the sick and disabled. Whilst we allow 75B a year to sit in the sun in the Cayman Islands or Belize but thats quite alright as that money belongs to the right people of course, not the plebs upon whom the bulk of the tax burden falls.
Data for anyone who wants it.
[https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/benefit-expenditure-and-caseload-tables-2022](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/benefit-expenditure-and-caseload-tables-2022)
2021-2022 financial year:
* Total welfare spending: £243 billion (34% of all public spending)
* State Pension: £105.1 billion
* Housing Benefit: £17.4 billion
* Universal Credit: £38.6 billion (5.6 million claimants as of February 2022, 50% in work)
* Personal Independence Payment (PIP): £19.7 billion
* Disability Living Allowance (DLA): £7.2 billion
* Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and Incapacity Benefit: £13.7 billion
* Other working age benefits (Income Support, Jobseeker’s Allowance, Statutory Maternity Pay): £7.7 billion
Translation work for your benefits by stocking shelves at Tesco.
Workfare anyone?
Love to know how this will work. There’s thousands of DWP staff administering UC who are themselves on UC due to a combination of low wages and high rent/childcare costs.
Oh look the government and the press are ranting and raving about people on benefits, it must be Tuesday…
…suckers.
Here’s the thing; if you want people to work and be compliant with a system that 99.9% of people don’t want to be part of, there has to be some tangible incentive to engage with employment.
Why the fuck would anyone give up 40 hours per week when they can’t **own** a car, a house, can’t **afford** kids – what’s the point on living on finance for the rest of your life?
Until a government stops to realise that a normal life 20-25 years ago is completely inaccessible to most people unless a relative dies and does something to challenge that reality, nobody will choose to work over taking handouts and who can blame them?
Daily mail putting clear bias in the headline
I mean… that’s just compulsory labour. What a horrible country we live in.
Oof talk about attacking your own voters
How about actually helping people get into careers that will last a lifetime instead of dead-end jobs that they will leave in 6 months due to poor pay.
It’s unfair to expect people to go into a job where they feel less of a human then they did without a job.
There are 7 million people in the UK on some form of disability benefit
The working population is only 40 million
Common sense will tell you that something is wrong here and this isn’t sustainable
The return of not so New Labour – better than JC or chaos with Ed.
Axe Universal Credit. Introduce Universal Basic Income.
What happens when the private sector can’t (or won’t) employ everyone? The state is already subsidising part-time minimum wage workers.
The majority of the welfare bill is the state pension which accounts for about half of the entire welfare spending in the UK. So if you want to save money that’s where you look first.
The second place I’d look is tax credits and Universal Credit as the UK literally uses taxpayer’s money to subsidise the low wages paid by large employers like Tesco’s in the form of working age benefits like tax credits or Universal Credit. Literally over a third of claimants who are receiving working age benefits are actually already in employment.
So I’d be asking why we are subsidising the wage bills of multi million pound corporations and thinking of ways to reduce that before I went after any benefit claimants.
Of course as the UK’s news media is on the side of pensioners and large corporations this is why we are going after working age benefit claimants first…
So what do they expect people to do without any money? Starve to death? Steal? Sell drugs? Become prostitutes?
No wonder there’s a petition for a new election that has nearly a million signatures on it, labour have doubled back on so much you have to question their integrity.
Will this trog, and the current and future governments, ever find the spine to prevent the £120 billion lost each year through tax avoidance and evasion?
A few months later… “Why has crime skyrocketed?”
Lol. The biggest drain is all the illegal immigrants getting £175 a week and all the ‘free’ shit they get.
I can understand it if they out for the piss takers who are just bone idle and refuse to work, I have a few family members that are in this category too.
But the genuine cases that rely on UC due to this country being so screwed up everywhere, why should they be tarred with the same brush.
I’ve met people on my job that will do the absolute bare minimum hours in a week because they get so much more from benefits topping them up and will not take any extra hours offered to them!
And don’t get me started on the broken childcare system we have in place!
What about the people that work and still claim something from UC because their job isn’t paying them enough to get by…? The whole system is broken.
If people were paid a decent wage there might be more incentive.
Yeah I agree.
However I need at least £2400 per month take home to cover my Housing, Council Tax, Utilities & Bills, Food, Sundries. I’ll also need transport which in my area is looking ~£300 a month to travel across county. I’ll need specialised work place for mobility. I’ll also need my healthcare covered as NHS waiting times just doesn’t lend itself to work, especially as I have multiple health conditions and I wont have the luxury to wait 2yrs+ for consultation/treatment.
I’ll also need to think about savings, pension.
Not even talked about money I need for myself either.
Oh yeah … I’ll need to eat aswell. Oh and I need clothes.
How about instead of blaming people who are unable to find work you blame the companies and corporations who refuse to employ them?
Didn’t the Tories come in and entirely fhange the benefits system? Designing it so it didn’t help those who needed it? Its needed fixing for along time.
How can they justify this, whilst paying millions to people not from this country living in hotels with private healthcare and being given allowances? This is very tone deaf.
Would help if there were actually any jobs and employers weren’t so picky
Haven’t successive governments been saying this since the 80’s? It’s all bollocks just said for temporary appeasement
I’d love to go back to work, been trying to loose weight and get my head in a space were I can work. But what if I try to go back and I can’t do it, I’d have to fight to get my benefits back and I’d be in trouble for months.
It’s common in many countries that you **have to** attend a percentage of the job interviews that some government official arranges for you, based on your skillset and circumstances. Regardless of whether you get the job, you gotta attend the interview.
It’d make sense that if you fail to attend without a reasonable jsutification, there shoudl be some consequence.
Is that not the case right now?
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