I’m going to guess it’s mostly because many of these people commute to work in Switzerland by car or live in the US or other places with absurd transportation policies.
I don’t even get why they’re allowed to vote in a country they don’t live in.
As a swiss abroad who voted against highway expansion, I’d imagine that this is partly due to (a) people thinking that bigger highways like in their countries of residence are the norm, and (b) public transit being harder to navigate when coming back to visit Switzerland (especially if you don’t know the networks well, and don’t have access to a swiss phone plan)
That being said, I live in Texas which is a concrete hellscape covered in 12+ lane highways. The more highways were built, the farther people chose to live from their work. The biggest highways have the most congestion, and people complain about traffic daily (though they still chose to drive 50km each way to work). More car infrastructure will never solve congestion in the long term. If you want less traffic, create incentives to get people off the road.
They aren’t brainwashed Greens like those we have in Europe🙃.
Maybe the Swiss abroad forgot about how many people hog on the left lane, and thought “an extra left lane? finally I can overtake those guys”.
No…an extra left lane means an extra lane for someone to move to and drive below speed limiting and block everyone else.
Sooo I am an Auslandschweizer now and did not vote. Part of it was the bleeding paperwork needed to vote is way way too complicated. I even complained and they said well you could mail this document (HUGE). As I am a dual citizen with Germany all I needed to identify myself to vote in German elections was a copy of my passport and registration details that associated me to my passport.
Annyyyhooo… This was the first Swiss vote that my wife and I missed. We both asked ourselves what were the topics to vote on? Nothing that affects or interests us.
I am not trying to be combative, but more an observation that we both went from voting everytime to huh vote time? What I don’t understand is why so much paperwork has to be filled out to vote as an Auslandschweizer?
For those wondering… Imagine for a moment you have the Swiss passport, lived in Switzerland for 20 years here are the questions they ask when you are outside of Switzerland.
1) Social insurance number. HEH? Why?
2) Where were you were born, and what your Heimat Ort is? WTF? Its on my darn passport fools. You are the embassy you have access to that information.
3) You have your Swiss passport since when? What other passports do you have? WTF? Why do you need that information? I am asking to vote, not have a root canal.
4) Your last residence in Switzerland? YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALREADY WHEN I LEFT SWITZERLAND.
5) Your education level? Are you freaken kidding me? Why on earth do you need that information.
6) Your health insurance number? Say wah? I am living outside the country I am not using Swiss health care, nor wish to.
7) Who is your mother and father? Ok now you are just yanking my chain for fun.
8) GPS coordinates for residence? That amused me and well that one I can understand. You are in the jungle and all you have are Satellite phones. But Switzerland will send a letter! That was sarcasm.
I just gave up and said whatever… Not going to vote. Maybe that is their strategy that they don’t want to my wife and I to vote. BTW I am trying to register in Frankfurt Germany. You would think with Schengen the ability to exchange information that they would make this a tad simpler. Sorta like Germany does. But hey at least they don’t ask for a fax machine number! Again sarcasm.
Maybe we should beginn to start an initiaive to stop abroad swiss people from voting or have some prerequisites for it.
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I’m going to guess it’s mostly because many of these people commute to work in Switzerland by car or live in the US or other places with absurd transportation policies.
I don’t even get why they’re allowed to vote in a country they don’t live in.
As a swiss abroad who voted against highway expansion, I’d imagine that this is partly due to (a) people thinking that bigger highways like in their countries of residence are the norm, and (b) public transit being harder to navigate when coming back to visit Switzerland (especially if you don’t know the networks well, and don’t have access to a swiss phone plan)
That being said, I live in Texas which is a concrete hellscape covered in 12+ lane highways. The more highways were built, the farther people chose to live from their work. The biggest highways have the most congestion, and people complain about traffic daily (though they still chose to drive 50km each way to work). More car infrastructure will never solve congestion in the long term. If you want less traffic, create incentives to get people off the road.
They aren’t brainwashed Greens like those we have in Europe🙃.
Maybe the Swiss abroad forgot about how many people hog on the left lane, and thought “an extra left lane? finally I can overtake those guys”.
No…an extra left lane means an extra lane for someone to move to and drive below speed limiting and block everyone else.
Sooo I am an Auslandschweizer now and did not vote. Part of it was the bleeding paperwork needed to vote is way way too complicated. I even complained and they said well you could mail this document (HUGE). As I am a dual citizen with Germany all I needed to identify myself to vote in German elections was a copy of my passport and registration details that associated me to my passport.
Annyyyhooo… This was the first Swiss vote that my wife and I missed. We both asked ourselves what were the topics to vote on? Nothing that affects or interests us.
I am not trying to be combative, but more an observation that we both went from voting everytime to huh vote time? What I don’t understand is why so much paperwork has to be filled out to vote as an Auslandschweizer?
For those wondering… Imagine for a moment you have the Swiss passport, lived in Switzerland for 20 years here are the questions they ask when you are outside of Switzerland.
1) Social insurance number. HEH? Why?
2) Where were you were born, and what your Heimat Ort is? WTF? Its on my darn passport fools. You are the embassy you have access to that information.
3) You have your Swiss passport since when? What other passports do you have? WTF? Why do you need that information? I am asking to vote, not have a root canal.
4) Your last residence in Switzerland? YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALREADY WHEN I LEFT SWITZERLAND.
5) Your education level? Are you freaken kidding me? Why on earth do you need that information.
6) Your health insurance number? Say wah? I am living outside the country I am not using Swiss health care, nor wish to.
7) Who is your mother and father? Ok now you are just yanking my chain for fun.
8) GPS coordinates for residence? That amused me and well that one I can understand. You are in the jungle and all you have are Satellite phones. But Switzerland will send a letter! That was sarcasm.
I just gave up and said whatever… Not going to vote. Maybe that is their strategy that they don’t want to my wife and I to vote. BTW I am trying to register in Frankfurt Germany. You would think with Schengen the ability to exchange information that they would make this a tad simpler. Sorta like Germany does. But hey at least they don’t ask for a fax machine number! Again sarcasm.
Maybe we should beginn to start an initiaive to stop abroad swiss people from voting or have some prerequisites for it.
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