Truth behind general election petition as identities behind signatures debunked

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/truth-behind-general-election-petition-34187365

by Amentet

26 comments

  2. Can’t read the article due to obnoxious “let us scrape your data or pay up” bullshit popups.

  4. >Behind the UK, Australia has the most people who have signed the petition at almost 3,000. In Spain, some 2,018 people have signed and around 1,500 have signed in the US. More than 1,000 people in France and Canada have also put their name on the petition. Even nine people have signed in the British Antarctic Territory.

    Not many foreign signatures at all then if the 2nd most comes from Australia, then Spain and the US which all coincidently all have high numbers of British expats?

    It isn’t unfeasible to assume out of the 1.1 millions Brits living in Australia 3000 of them would sign the petition.

  5. >Even nine people have signed in the British Antarctic Territory.

    Are there even nine British citizens in the Antarctic?

  6. I don’t get this even they say you only have to be a British citizens and lots of British people live abroad seems like a nothing story to me?

  8. The farage racist lot are getting good. After bringing the nation to riots by stoking up anger in the less intelligent, they are now harvesting data and targeting the less informed to sign a petition calling for something they haven’t actually lost!

  9. The UK petition website should inly be accessible with a gateway ID, just like any other public service available to Brits/residents only. Simple as pie, the system already exists.

  10. Jesus Christ that page is a cesspit completely slowed my phone down

  11. Anyone who thinks this petition represents anything other than an exercise in collective stupidity is entirely deluded.

    It has about as much value as the bogroll on which I wiped my arse this morning. Less, in fact, as at least that was briefly useful to one person for a few seconds.

  12. How have they managed to do a whole article and not even mention that the UK figure will not be accurate due to there being no verification of people claiming to be a British Citizen. It’s something that needs to be fixed

  13. What makes it worse was there was one of these for every Prime Minister since the introduction of the petition.

    They didn’t receive quite as many signatures but with how the internet is now you can see why it happens with no ID verification.

  14. Even if all real sigs, that petition represents less than 3% of the country. Therefore Starmmer is unbelievably popular, right Daily Mail?

  15. Too much ado about nothing.

    It won’t happen. Why bother?

    Is this a distraction?

  16. I’ve been involved with botfarming on a small scale, mostly gaming views and shit on various mobile phone apps, etc. But I have seen some truly staggering botfarms, especially in China, where they had warehouses full of android devices set up to do things and mostly automated.

    It was beyond obvious that a significant portion of those things were from bots. If I recall right, you only need to submit a postcode to submit a vote.

    Thank fuck we don’t have electronic voting or christ knows who we’d end up with in charge.

  17. I wrote to my MP about this. Misinformation isn’t a nuisance, it affects everybody including the ones who don’t fall for it. This should be shouted from the rooftops, we have had reports of bots and Russian interference and it needs to be clarified for those who aren’t Internet savvy.

  18. Yet they ignored the petition for 2nd ref and rejoining EU.

  19. I commented in another post about how easily I was able to sign a petition.

    The only thing it verifies is you’re able to click a confirm link in an email it sends you.

    Setting up an automated bot to create a fake temporary email and use fake details in the form would be trivial for any developer. Russia’s been doing far more complex work.

    It’s all being done to manipulate people into thinking there are a lot of Brits who want this.

  20. Kinda surprised the Mirror is reporting this. Thought Murdoch would want a new election. Must hate Kemi Badenoch.

  21. Why do these people want another GE anyway? Because Starmer didn’t fix 14 years of Tory incompetence in 4 months? Or that the PM for the first time in a decade isn’t mired in drama?

  22. The main problem is that we believe people with letters after their names. Those letters only point to an appreciation of the subject they have studied.
    The PhD’s will usually only give support to the ‘current’ thinking to gain grants (and therefore a salary).
    Put the 2 together and you have normal people, with an ‘education’, telling us what to do, with no understanding of any other aspect of life, all looking for their next paycheque.
    Critical Thinking is done by others outside of the education system that have never been influenced by people with letters after their name.
    The educated have always had to follow others with similar letters after their names. So, therefore never having the freedoms to think outside the box.

  23. Ask them a literacy or numeracy question to qualify for the vowt, (sic)

  24. We all live in a society where people are told things and are expected to take it at face value. The Internet has shown how badly wrong this can go and decades of people being exposed to Facebook and the like has confused the population to no end.

    There’s an obvious reason why countries like China restrict what people can see and I honestly don’t blame them, even if their reasoning isn’t “right”.

    Our population are getting manipulated daily by foreign influences that a lot of times aren’t even people, they are bots. Russia and other foreign entities have been using this “weakness” to control and conquer their western enemies and it’s only getting worse.

    The US has effectively been “done” by this method with the recent election and I strongly believe brexit was part of this too. It’s only a matter of time before Farage or someone of his ilk is in power and we too get shoved off the cliff.

    But as I say, we are expected to believe whatever we are told and question nothing from a young age. The teachers in schools for example dictate what we “know” and you can’t deviate from it, even if they are wrong. I saw this first hand in school when there was a kid who was really intelligent, annoyingly so, who got berated and sent out for correcting a teacher.

    The same thinking is rife in the bible even and we expect our peers to just suck it up and question nothing.

    If there’s one thing I always encourage with my neices and nephews, it’s to question everything.

  25. >The PM told ITV’s This Morning: “Look, I remind myself that very many people didn’t vote Labour at the last election. I’m not surprised that many of them want a rerun. That isn’t how our system works. There will be plenty of people who didn’t want us in the first place. So, what my focus is on is the decisions that I have to make every day.”

    Got to respect the whole, yeah you hate me, but I’ve got shit to do and it doesn’t involve dealing with this trival nonsense.

    Also… quite a few signatures there from a number of African countries…

  26. Elon Musk is rapidly becoming the Goebbels of our time, but at a time when his propaganda reach is global, not national. The big takeaway from this is that the extreme right are in de facto control of large international networks that include people like Elon and Trump. So they’ll definitely be rallying around Farage for the next four years, and their combined resources are going to be crushing.

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