Why? Correct me if im wrong, but the law doesn’t allow that if the person being “converted” doesnt want that, its all voluntary?
This needs more attention. Upvoting it.
Ew, no thanks.
I largely agree in practise.
Altough in my personal opinion this shouldn’t be decided on EU level. On that high decision making level, we should only do desicion that are really beneficial to do there instead of national level. I very much support EU, but I also very much support subsidiarity principle. In my opinion, there are things especially in common foreign policy and defence that could be decided more on EU level than they currently are. But honestly I think that this could be better decided on national level.
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This truly needs more attention and looking at the comments so far, it is very much still needed unfortunately. I have signed and done my part, I’ll also link this to some more people.
This needs less attention. Downvoting it!
Maybe at r/suomi because it’s for Finnish nationals?
Since when has it been the role of the EU to dictate such things? This would mean castration to boys who are not stereotypically male, like who play with dolls. Any attempt to guide them against that would be banned. Such law would be evil. How about freedom instead of such tyranny?
There is no LQBTQ+. There are gays, and other different groups.
Why should therapy aimed to convert towards normal be banned but not therapy aimed towards sex change operations not? The latter aims to change the child permanently.
Whatever one thinks about the subject matter, the text in the petition is objectively bonkers:
“Conversion practices on LGBTQ+ people are comprised of a diverse group of mental and physical manipulations, psycho-hypnotic indoctrinations (usually presented to public as “therapies”), medical and homoeopathic interventions, exorcism and other treatments enacted with the aim of altering Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression. Such practices are based on two erroneous premises: first, that sexual orientation and gender identity is necessarily a choice, the result of some esoteric evil power, or an outright disease, and second, that it can be suppressed, changed or cured.”
I kind of liked the term “euro-crimes” elsewhere in the text as well. I didn’t know there are crimes and then there are euro-crimes.
I didn’t have to read much further to realise it simply will not pass, because it’s written by someone who is probably mentally ill and obsessed with other peoples’ genitals.
This is not an EU level decision to make.
With all the Persus and Bible Thumpers in the government, these kinds of things are not considered cool.
I wish the petition was written less shoddily. It feels like no one who has experience in writing laws has been asked to comment on it.
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Why? Correct me if im wrong, but the law doesn’t allow that if the person being “converted” doesnt want that, its all voluntary?
This needs more attention. Upvoting it.
Ew, no thanks.
I largely agree in practise.
Altough in my personal opinion this shouldn’t be decided on EU level. On that high decision making level, we should only do desicion that are really beneficial to do there instead of national level. I very much support EU, but I also very much support subsidiarity principle. In my opinion, there are things especially in common foreign policy and defence that could be decided more on EU level than they currently are. But honestly I think that this could be better decided on national level.
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This truly needs more attention and looking at the comments so far, it is very much still needed unfortunately. I have signed and done my part, I’ll also link this to some more people.
This needs less attention. Downvoting it!
Maybe at r/suomi because it’s for Finnish nationals?
Since when has it been the role of the EU to dictate such things? This would mean castration to boys who are not stereotypically male, like who play with dolls. Any attempt to guide them against that would be banned. Such law would be evil. How about freedom instead of such tyranny?
There is no LQBTQ+. There are gays, and other different groups.
Why should therapy aimed to convert towards normal be banned but not therapy aimed towards sex change operations not? The latter aims to change the child permanently.
Whatever one thinks about the subject matter, the text in the petition is objectively bonkers:
“Conversion practices on LGBTQ+ people are comprised of a diverse group of mental and physical manipulations, psycho-hypnotic indoctrinations (usually presented to public as “therapies”), medical and homoeopathic interventions, exorcism and other treatments enacted with the aim of altering Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression. Such practices are based on two erroneous premises: first, that sexual orientation and gender identity is necessarily a choice, the result of some esoteric evil power, or an outright disease, and second, that it can be suppressed, changed or cured.”
I kind of liked the term “euro-crimes” elsewhere in the text as well. I didn’t know there are crimes and then there are euro-crimes.
I didn’t have to read much further to realise it simply will not pass, because it’s written by someone who is probably mentally ill and obsessed with other peoples’ genitals.
This is not an EU level decision to make.
With all the Persus and Bible Thumpers in the government, these kinds of things are not considered cool.
I wish the petition was written less shoddily. It feels like no one who has experience in writing laws has been asked to comment on it.
Dang, I’ve already signed this once. 🙁
Done!
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