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Damn! I thought only oppressed Chinese citizens had to install VPNs to check out what the other side was saying
Oh wait it’s slightly different as this is a US company restricting the options of Europeans ha ha
I watched some RT yesterday and the shit they were coming out with was absolutely ridiculous, fuck these channels.
Why just in the UK and EU?
Why not just ban them entirely, nobody should be doing business with anybody or any company in Russia until there has been a complete withdrawal, and even then I’d say, fuck that wait until Putin is gone.
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Strange that a lot of people on here seem to think that YouTube, a privately-owned American company, is some kind of public commons.
What the hell is happening to this subreddit. How many Russian apologists in this thread?
I’m not in favour of “censorship” usually but when it’s a case like this it’s obviously the right thing to do. People are dying. Wind your neck in.
Wow. The Russian bots are really all over this one
Want to help? Identify the Putin propaganda trolls – fucking loads on here and report every post they make as misinformation.
Gonna be honest, I’m not remotely interested in watching RT and I don’t even know what Sputnik is (another Russian news network I assume), but a private American company censoring them in European countries seems a bit… slippery slopey to me? Like, who are they to decide what we can or can’t watch (short of actual illegal content)?
That said it’s all just a giant mess, and YouTube & censorship is nothing new. Plus if you *really* want to view RT for whatever reason there’ll be other ways to do so.
This site could benefit from banning VPNs and then IP blocking any address in Russia.
Guarantee 25% of posters would disappear overnight.
The amount of misinformation that has been spreading recently is wild. Or maybe I was blind to it before.
American private businesses need to step up. And it looks like they’re doing so. More needed, though.
Edit: Just saw that Visa and Mastercard are blocking Russian banks now. Kinda big.
These channels are shills.
However – the cost of a free society is people (including rich oligarchs) can say things i don’t like.
It is quite important to know what the enemy thinks – I’m not convinced private censorship is the best option here – transparency is.
All outlets should come with a statement of who owns/pays them – and then the citizen can decide whether to take them seriously.
If Iranian TV can be banned from Freesat listings, they can do the same with RT. So why haven’t they?
Yessssss more censorship, because adults can’t choose for themselves what they can and cannot watch, never waste a good crisis though ey
This is suspicious. All I’ve seen has been people laughing at the Russian propaganda spread by these outlets, so… Why censor them? The laughable propaganda is having a positive effect on morale and also keeping us informed about the mindset the Russian people are being pushed towards. I see no benefit of closing this avenue to the people, unless we are scared our own people might find those outlets more trustworthy than our own. In which case, that would be our failing, something that should be rectified by increasing public trust in our own institutions, not blocking access to foreign media. Doing that will only have the Streisand effect – You censor something, people suddenly want to start checking it out, they want to see what’s being hidden from them. Happens every time, with Alex Jones, Assange, Joe Rogan, Gavin McInnes. Blocking access raises the value of that access.
I’m not convinced that’s the right thing to do
Russian media right now is a fascinating case study on disinformation campaigns and how to invert reality to flip people’s perception of events, only now everyone reading it knows it’s bullshit and can see their techniques and how they manipulate things first hand
I watched RT on Freeview TV here in UK. Propaganda and hate being spouted (Russian interviewees / general public, and their opinions of Ukrainians) Pretty awful.
I think by removing the voice you do t get to see the other sides propaganda. Regardless of whether you agree with it. Its fascinating non the mess
And still Ofcom hasn’t done anything about about Putin’s propaganda outlet…
You know the UK is still in Europe, you don’t need to separate them. We left the EU not the continent
Regardless of the nonsense, I’m not sure that it should be blocked seems hard to justify…
I used to watch RT years ago. There were Anonymous protests going on in central London then, police were kettling protestors and some were being very brutal in the handing. I had friends caught up on it at the time. It was all over social media Friends were messaging me and asking me to put the news on so I did and nobody was reporting on it at all. It was shortly after the 2010 London Riots so tensions were high.
I eventually found via Twitter that RT news was covering it so I switched over and there it was.
I also found out that they covered the scores and highlights from several Ice hockey leagues around the world and I’m really into hockey so I stuck around for that, for a few years, until the World Cup in Sochi happened and the constant homophobia coverage coming out of there and “Russia is the greatest country at doing the sport thing” rhetoric grated on my nerves so I stopped watching.
RT has a skill – they flood the zone with shit and keyword title it, so their content appears at the top of YouTube searches (YouTube is the second most popular search engine after Google) – they systematically dominate any message-space they enter with lies and fresh lies. The lie escapes into the world before a fact check can catch it and the damage done. They prey on the vulnerable, like Putin do.
What’s the best VPN location to use to regain control with minimal latency?
Typical YouTube casuistry. If they don’t want it on their platform, why not terminate the channel? If they don’t want people seeing it, why is access maintained across Asia, America, and Australasia?
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Damn! I thought only oppressed Chinese citizens had to install VPNs to check out what the other side was saying
Oh wait it’s slightly different as this is a US company restricting the options of Europeans ha ha
I watched some RT yesterday and the shit they were coming out with was absolutely ridiculous, fuck these channels.
Why just in the UK and EU?
Why not just ban them entirely, nobody should be doing business with anybody or any company in Russia until there has been a complete withdrawal, and even then I’d say, fuck that wait until Putin is gone.
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Strange that a lot of people on here seem to think that YouTube, a privately-owned American company, is some kind of public commons.
You can still watch RT in the UK if you’re desperate to do so – https://www.rt.com/where-to-watch/Great-Britain/
What the hell is happening to this subreddit. How many Russian apologists in this thread?
I’m not in favour of “censorship” usually but when it’s a case like this it’s obviously the right thing to do. People are dying. Wind your neck in.
Wow. The Russian bots are really all over this one
Want to help? Identify the Putin propaganda trolls – fucking loads on here and report every post they make as misinformation.
Gonna be honest, I’m not remotely interested in watching RT and I don’t even know what Sputnik is (another Russian news network I assume), but a private American company censoring them in European countries seems a bit… slippery slopey to me? Like, who are they to decide what we can or can’t watch (short of actual illegal content)?
That said it’s all just a giant mess, and YouTube & censorship is nothing new. Plus if you *really* want to view RT for whatever reason there’ll be other ways to do so.
This site could benefit from banning VPNs and then IP blocking any address in Russia.
Guarantee 25% of posters would disappear overnight.
The amount of misinformation that has been spreading recently is wild. Or maybe I was blind to it before.
American private businesses need to step up. And it looks like they’re doing so. More needed, though.
Edit: Just saw that Visa and Mastercard are blocking Russian banks now. Kinda big.
These channels are shills.
However – the cost of a free society is people (including rich oligarchs) can say things i don’t like.
It is quite important to know what the enemy thinks – I’m not convinced private censorship is the best option here – transparency is.
All outlets should come with a statement of who owns/pays them – and then the citizen can decide whether to take them seriously.
If Iranian TV can be banned from Freesat listings, they can do the same with RT. So why haven’t they?
Yessssss more censorship, because adults can’t choose for themselves what they can and cannot watch, never waste a good crisis though ey
This is suspicious. All I’ve seen has been people laughing at the Russian propaganda spread by these outlets, so… Why censor them? The laughable propaganda is having a positive effect on morale and also keeping us informed about the mindset the Russian people are being pushed towards. I see no benefit of closing this avenue to the people, unless we are scared our own people might find those outlets more trustworthy than our own. In which case, that would be our failing, something that should be rectified by increasing public trust in our own institutions, not blocking access to foreign media. Doing that will only have the Streisand effect – You censor something, people suddenly want to start checking it out, they want to see what’s being hidden from them. Happens every time, with Alex Jones, Assange, Joe Rogan, Gavin McInnes. Blocking access raises the value of that access.
I’m not convinced that’s the right thing to do
Russian media right now is a fascinating case study on disinformation campaigns and how to invert reality to flip people’s perception of events, only now everyone reading it knows it’s bullshit and can see their techniques and how they manipulate things first hand
I watched RT on Freeview TV here in UK. Propaganda and hate being spouted (Russian interviewees / general public, and their opinions of Ukrainians) Pretty awful.
I think by removing the voice you do t get to see the other sides propaganda. Regardless of whether you agree with it. Its fascinating non the mess
And still Ofcom hasn’t done anything about about Putin’s propaganda outlet…
You know the UK is still in Europe, you don’t need to separate them. We left the EU not the continent
Regardless of the nonsense, I’m not sure that it should be blocked seems hard to justify…
I used to watch RT years ago. There were Anonymous protests going on in central London then, police were kettling protestors and some were being very brutal in the handing. I had friends caught up on it at the time. It was all over social media Friends were messaging me and asking me to put the news on so I did and nobody was reporting on it at all. It was shortly after the 2010 London Riots so tensions were high.
I eventually found via Twitter that RT news was covering it so I switched over and there it was.
I also found out that they covered the scores and highlights from several Ice hockey leagues around the world and I’m really into hockey so I stuck around for that, for a few years, until the World Cup in Sochi happened and the constant homophobia coverage coming out of there and “Russia is the greatest country at doing the sport thing” rhetoric grated on my nerves so I stopped watching.
RT has a skill – they flood the zone with shit and keyword title it, so their content appears at the top of YouTube searches (YouTube is the second most popular search engine after Google) – they systematically dominate any message-space they enter with lies and fresh lies. The lie escapes into the world before a fact check can catch it and the damage done. They prey on the vulnerable, like Putin do.
What’s the best VPN location to use to regain control with minimal latency?
Typical YouTube casuistry. If they don’t want it on their platform, why not terminate the channel? If they don’t want people seeing it, why is access maintained across Asia, America, and Australasia?