“In September 2021, it advertised for consultancy work on the project.
It’s now been confirmed that the study reached the same conclusion that every other study into the issue has already reported — it’ll cost an awful lot of money for very little benefit”.
Money well spent TFL.
Well this is going to upset a lot of people that don’t live in London and never take the tube.
Not having much luck with the ones that do have drivers so probably a good idea
I am now going to send this article to everyone who says we should have driverless trains every time there is mention of a strike.
> Despite the claims that it would prevent strikes on the tube, the reality is that it wouldn’t, as driverless trains would still have staff on board, just as the DLR does, and the DLR still has strikes.
I’m curious why driverless trains would still have to have staff on board. Some metro systems in other countries have totally unstaffed trains.
These days on various lines we’re lucky to see any tube trains at all. So in a way they have gone driverless!
It was never *really* going to happen for a few reasons, one of which being tfls incompetence and general inefficiency
It was never going to work. The disruption and cost to make it work on the existing London Underground would be biblical for very little gain.
New lines should be automated from the start though.
I like to see how they’ve calculated that it’d be billions per line unless of course they’ve already factored in, like most Government contracts, several large companies lining their own pockets and severe delays and overspend due to piss poor project management.
Much better to keep giving the union 15% wage rises per year, while defending pissed drivers
Excellent. Up the workers.
So why do we keep building new ones without automation?
Driverless trains are coming. It’s just not going to truly happen until around 2060.
I actually wouldn’t want driverless trains on the tube. Keep it simple, train has a driver. End of.
This country has the worst of consulting, middlemen and politicians all with their hands out looking for a cut of any software contract, software upgrades, hardware contracts or any kind of future servicing that would need to happen.
The dlr is automated but still has a conductor, they still have to employ somebody to be on board. I know they would probably get paid a lot less than a driver but I don’t understand how cost effective this would be. People still want somebody on the train to speak to or for help it’s not something you can completely automate
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“In September 2021, it advertised for consultancy work on the project.
It’s now been confirmed that the study reached the same conclusion that every other study into the issue has already reported — it’ll cost an awful lot of money for very little benefit”.
Money well spent TFL.
Well this is going to upset a lot of people that don’t live in London and never take the tube.
Not having much luck with the ones that do have drivers so probably a good idea
I am now going to send this article to everyone who says we should have driverless trains every time there is mention of a strike.
> Despite the claims that it would prevent strikes on the tube, the reality is that it wouldn’t, as driverless trains would still have staff on board, just as the DLR does, and the DLR still has strikes.
I’m curious why driverless trains would still have to have staff on board. Some metro systems in other countries have totally unstaffed trains.
These days on various lines we’re lucky to see any tube trains at all. So in a way they have gone driverless!
It was never *really* going to happen for a few reasons, one of which being tfls incompetence and general inefficiency
It was never going to work. The disruption and cost to make it work on the existing London Underground would be biblical for very little gain.
New lines should be automated from the start though.
I like to see how they’ve calculated that it’d be billions per line unless of course they’ve already factored in, like most Government contracts, several large companies lining their own pockets and severe delays and overspend due to piss poor project management.
Much better to keep giving the union 15% wage rises per year, while defending pissed drivers
Excellent. Up the workers.
So why do we keep building new ones without automation?
Driverless trains are coming. It’s just not going to truly happen until around 2060.
I actually wouldn’t want driverless trains on the tube. Keep it simple, train has a driver. End of.
This country has the worst of consulting, middlemen and politicians all with their hands out looking for a cut of any software contract, software upgrades, hardware contracts or any kind of future servicing that would need to happen.
The dlr is automated but still has a conductor, they still have to employ somebody to be on board. I know they would probably get paid a lot less than a driver but I don’t understand how cost effective this would be. People still want somebody on the train to speak to or for help it’s not something you can completely automate
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