Should you pay more for parking if you have a big car?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28wr7lge1o

by JRugman

36 comments
  1. Pay for the amount of spaces you occupy – if you overlap into the next box, 2x the fee and so on.

    This actually used to be applied in multi-storey carparks in the town I grew up (I had a summer job sweep up all the discarded pay and display tickets) – if your wheels overlapped into the next parking bay, you got a ticket for the extra space.

  2. Yes, this American consumeristic imperialism needs to end. I hate materialism and i hate American dogma even more.

  3. For on street parking width is a problem, if a car is parked either side of the street, and they’re both 15cm wider than 20 years ago it makes the road effectively 30cm narrower for driving.

    But charging more doesn’t help there, you can either enforce a maximum width from kerb, or ban parking.

  4. Providing bigger spaces and charging more for them doesn’t seem unreasonable, but if the spaces are all the same size and the car fits, then the price should be the same.

    Arguments about weight are largely moot when it comes to car park speeds and some smaller EVs now weigh more than a larger SUV.

    There are often commercial vehicles in car parks that don’t fit a standard space, they could be charged either for a larger space or if they take up multiple bays they could be charged per bay.

  5. If it’s actually done on floor space then yes, if some measure for the SUV haters that assume because it is taller but not actually wider or longer than a 5 series Wagon, then no.

    Just because you can’t see over it doesn’t mean it’s actually taking up space that affects you.

  6. It’s started appearing and you can pay at the Trafford centre for a large space is the latest controversy

  7. If the car can’t fit in the bay, then yes. If the car can fit in the bay, then no

  8. Honestly with the predatory practices of some carparks in big cities I’m surprised this isn’t already a thing

  9. Yes, absolutely. More charges on those in a home who’ve got second cars – especially these big 4 x 4s

  10. Yes because majority of the time they take up 1 and a half spaces and are driven by people without a care in the world about others.

  11. So if you drive “Smart car” or some “Renault Clio”you pay less ???

  12. You catch more flies with honey.. offer a discount for vehicles below a certain size, as in Japan

  13. If you decide to buy a stupid sized car that takes up 2 parking spots, then you should pay for the extra spot you take up. Seems pretty common sense.

  14. Just tax cars by weight and be done with it. It’ll encourage people into smaller cars and weight is the thing that damages roads the most. If its adopted at scale, it’ll force manufactures to build lighter vehicles.

    EVs don’t have to be heavy but its often lazy engineering that gets us there; a Tesla Model 3 weights very little more than equivalent BMW 3 series and the lightest mass production BMW we’ve seen for probably 20 years was an EV.

    Get people back in MPVs rather than huge SUVs.

  15. PSA: while SUVs are tall, they often don’t take up a larger footprint than a similar age saloon/hatchback car (indeed, they might well be built on the same chassis).

    Modern cars are larger in general than older ones due to modern safety regulations.

  16. Not for parking but yes for road use. Heavy ass cars damage roads and Councils are too poor to be able to fix them adequately due to the lack of Government funding + their funding being stretched in too many different higher priority areas.

  17. It’s always about paying more and more. Why can’t it be that people with small cars get to pay less?

  18. ISH. We are having this debate in Cardiff at the moment. The issue is that many people with young families, or who have access needs need larger vehicles. Not insane huge ones – but your estates etc. (Though most manufacturers now sell SUVs instead of MPVs and estates). You need to be able to fit modern, safer car seats in if you have primary school aged children. Sensible – but it takes up room. If you have an adapted vehicle because of a disability, these are also usually larger. For many people a three-door hatchback is not a practical option. I really would like to see proper equality impact assessments on these ideas. As those who have loads of money, will still buy what they want, but those who have limited options for safe vehicles may also face increased costs.

  19. It only works if done in conjunction with making access to towns and cities easier. Park and ride etc. arbitrarily raising prices on likely families is giving to do little to encourage people to use town centres.

  20. Have a separate category of driving licence for large and high performance cars. To drive one, you must take your test in one, and perhaps have higher medical standards. A second driving test or a smaller car, most would choose a smaller car.

  21. Microcars and small hatchbacks in Guernsey are free to park, and they have dedicated small parking spaces that are usually in a great spot, and larger vehicles have to park further away (*where there is more space for them*). I don’t understand why that isn’t a thing here. Parking spaces are obscenely small relative to some people’s vehicle of choice, so allowing smaller cars somewhere to park is a great incentive.

  22. Big cars occupy more than 1 spot in length and width…they should pay more

  23. These hunks of shit are less safe in the most deadly types of crashes (rollovers are basically suicidal), they destroy roads because weight damages road surfaces exponentially, they have atrocious visibility making them dangerous to pedestrians, and pollute the environment far more than normal cars. The American pickups aren’t even good as pickups, their beds are no bigger than older models made in a human scale.

    Ideally they should just be banned, but discouraging their use at every step is a good start.

  24. this would be nice for assholes but horrible for 5+ people families

  25. Have you seen some of these cars? They barely fit into parking spaces and down narrow roads, and usually the people who have them can’t actually drive so they park and drive like absolute crap to begin with.

  26. Yes but they also need bigger spots. No point in paying more if im still fucking stuck getting a spot lol

  27. Using this logic shouldn’t we be weighing passengers on flights an charging an overweight fee?

  28. Love those huge cars that have their headlights directly beaming into my eyes at night. Not to mention, if you ever get into a crash with one, you’re always going to come off worse if you’re in a smaller car.

  29. Owners of such should be made to pay more VED as well

  30. Yes, why are you driving through the tiny town of fucking Accrington with a 4×4 that’s made for loading logs from the fucking Yosemite mountain range?

    Really makes sense to park it up at Asda, take up 10 spaces and being an annoying dick to everyone else.

  31. Taxing on emissions, and weight (if it can really be shown that effects road wear) sounds reasonable.

    Taxing on length or other size measurements sounds odd, what’s the benefit, allows us to squeeze even more cars onto the same roads. We should be encouraging people to have fewer cars, not more shorter cars.

  32. I’m going to weigh in here with a slightly different take as I don’t see this mentioned, but I’m sure you can all agree there needs to be some concessions.

    My daughter is wheelchair bound and we have what some people would call a big car, it’s not really, I think it’s slightly less length than my old estate car, but is taller. It’s impossible to fit a wheelchair like she has into anything smaller, we struggle with the boot in this one and if anything else has to go in we basically have to dismantle it.

    I only mention because the hate against big cars is real and I get abuse constantly for all sorts of shit including having a big car, parking in blue badge bays (apparently old people are the only ones meant to be using them) and parking on double yellows as long as I don’t cause an obstruction etc.

    Some people need big cars, others are just ass hats. I wouldn’t have one if I didn’t need one and certainly didn’t want the biggest on the road, but really we’ll probably have to get an MPV at some point which is even bigger.

  33. If they made parking spaces about 10cm wider it would greatly reduce traffic in parking lots. It’s absurd what some places consider a parking space.

    Sainsbury’s in Farnham is like a social experiment in how much you can frustrate people before they give up and go park somewhere else

  34. Just to help the arguments here – https://carsized.com lets you directly compare two cars as an overly.

    Imo I’m not sure paying more is as good a solution as just limiting sales on the cars in the first place. Roads and spaces are for all, you shouldn’t get to squeeze everyone else out because you have money.

  35. Yeah probably, bigger space paying bigger price. Also going to have an issue with EVs as they weigh more than the standard car that a multistorey car park was built for, so ground floor spaces could end up being a premium too. Its going to be like buying an easyjet ticket trying to get a parking space!

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