Romanian Parliamentary Elections Result Paradox: Brown is Far Right, Blue is Left. Western Europe is radical, while Eastern Europe is leftist.

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by MrPulifrici

46 comments

  1. What a great time to be alive/s.Al Europe have the same problem

  3. Wut? What am I looking at. This is the most blatanly made upp thing in the history of everything.

    Edit: Makes more sense from replies. This is Romanian voters, not parties in Europe. My bad.

  5. It’s a bit funny how at least 1/3 of people commenting misread the title :P.

  6. For context if anyone is confused about title and image

    These are votes from the Romanias living abroad (of the diaspora) in the parliament elections

    It’s nothing surprising. In the presidential, the independent cooky right wing candidate won a lot of votes in the western diaspora while the USR lady (reformist center right) won the eastern diaspora

    These results were not at all surprising to anyone paying attention to Romania and it’s elections

  7. The map is misleading because the numbers are very different. There are way way more votes in the brown part of the map.

  8. I was gonna made the assumption that romanians that migrated to richest countries voted for Far right, but it’s looking 50/50

  9. What? Brown is far-right, blue is center-right
    Red is supposed to be left but it’s very corrupt

  10. Mayhap because in western Europe we treat Romanians like crap instead of applying the equality and understanding we preach. Ah no, we do it with everyone, unless they’re rich…

  11. Most of the contries from which romanians voted -far right- are contries in which they left for a better life. They tend to search for a significat change because they are fed up with corruption and false promises.
    Now the countries from which they voted far left, are countries that are already under a far right regime and they voted accordingly.

  12. Judging solely from this map, it seems like Romanians living in Western countries may be disillusioned (?) about what being a Romanian/Romania (in general as part of that group of countries) feels like, while on the other hand, Romanians in Eastern countries, probably aspire to be like/go to the West.

  14. It’s fascinating how nationalistic people become when they emigrate to a richer nation with a better standard of living.

  15. At some point we’ll need to change some laws about nationality and voting. I know plenty of people born and raised in one country, who can vote for another and 9/10 they know nothing about their home country outside of social media slop.

    I’ll take myself as an example: I’m born and raised in Belgium but have double nationality Italian/Belgian due to my dad. I know nothing about Italy, i don’t speak Italian, i have been there maybe 3 times in my entire life. Why can i vote for a country that i have nothing to do with and don’t have to live in?

    At some point it makes no sense to be able to make decisions for a country you are disconnected from and don’t have to live in.

  16. Could you elaborate on Crimea?

    I assume that this is a state mandated official map of the election results.

    Does Romanian government agree with Crimean referendum results?

  20. USR (Blue) is not Left.

    They are self-declared right-wing. A Temu Thatcher, some elitist snobs wanting to privatize healthcare and education.

    They are also the only party that believes “those homosexuals” (quoting the party leader) should be let to live, so the real fascists scream at them that they’re lgbt leftists.

  21. u/MrPulifrici ce pula mea sa înțeleg din cacatu’ asta de titlu?

  24. No paradox, WE gets less educated immigrants from RO, that vote accordingly.

    Active measures have been successful.

  25. Maybe it’s because Romanians who migrate to other Eastern European countries tend to be highly educated specialists, while those who move to Western Europe typically are blue-collar workers from lower socioeconomic backgrounds, small towns and villages

  26. These are parties of 20% or less. In a multi party system, let’s not show small pluralities as if they represented homogenous groups or majorities. Maybe this is not misleading in the main message, but it needs more explanation, like how many far right factions and left factions there are, what are the differences, what are the margins, and why is the red and yellow (1st and 3rd) one so unpopular abroad?

  28. Not surprising at all. In the East we know what’s at stake. In the West people are often blinded and do not understand that the struggles they face are a sad excuse against the struggles that the USSR left us to deal with and having Ruzzia as a close by neighbour.

  29. This is very misleading, a mod should edit or delete this! Blue and yellow are center-right, brown is far-right, red is center-left!

  31. those blue countries voted for USR which is a centre right party, has nothing to do with the left

  33. It is not the same left/right spectrum as in other countries. Example: blue wants to privatise the health system, brown wants to build social housing. It is correct to say brown is populists, nationalists, fascists, while blue is liberals, pro-europeans.

  35. Eastern Europe is not leftist. USR is a center-right party. Economically, they are pretty right wing. A better comparison would be in terms of populism.

  36. As far as I know USR (blue) is rather center-right with european values

  37. Blue is liberal, not left. They’ve got very centre-right/right-wing economic policies

  39. Misleading: blue is for USR, which identifies center-right, liberal (as in Europe, not in US) and sits with Renew in the EP.

  40. I think the caption on the picture is incorrect. I think the map shows how Romanians living abroad voted in the last election.

  41. Blue isn’t left-wing. The USR party is center-right pro-EU party with a right-wing economic policy, moderate-progressive cultural policy (their leader is pro civil unions but against same-sex marriage) and strong stance on the fight against corruption.

  42. If the paradox is “bUt EurOpe iS LibEraL aNd tHe eAsT is ReActIoNaRy” then you have not been paying attention to elections in Europe – Geert Wilders, Le Pen, Partido Popular, various Tories in UK, Austrian ‘Freedom Party’, Swiss ‘People’s party’.

    Europe is not inherently liberal or left.

  43. So the nationalist living in rich Western capital XYZ stereotyoe is true after all…

  44. “Romanian Election: Romanian expats voted predominantly right-wing (brown) in Western Europe, left-wing (blue) in Eastern Europe.”

    There, fixed your headline, OP.

  45. Right doesn’t automatically mean far-right, it also contains conservative parties. Europe isn’t radical, it moves conservative.

  46. As a Brit I can confirm that Romanians aren’t well-liked here (nor are they in Ireland) people conflate Romanians with Roma and Roma with Travellers (which, obviously, they are) and Travellers with “thieving shits who park their vans anywhere and leave an area looking like a landfill site”.

    All Travellers are very much a pariah demographic here and bullying is a massive issue for Traveller kids both in and out of school. Some areas (like here in Bristol and in Leeds) have set up ‘special’ schools exclusively for Traveller kids so they don’t miss out on education.

    Must be hard when your existence is so transient. I know sort of how they feel, I’ve never felt I’ve had a permanent home anywhere, either…

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