50% of people wants to help refugees and 50% people don’t want to.
Add to the fact that the context is different.
1. Both refugee groups have people saying “we don’t want them”, you just didn’t screenshot the nay-sayers in the top part for Ukraine.
2. Both refugee groups have people willing to help. You did not show any of the people willing to take in Afghans.
3. Nobody in this screenshot is against one and for the other.
4. Afghans and Ukrainians are not identical people.
Some people will have a fear of importing an oppressive, hostile, women-hating, gay-murdering, theocratic religious cult; not entire unjustified seeing refugee centres across Europe dealing with Afghans and other Middle-East refugees.
Even if this isn’t a factor, there is still a big difference in cultural and educational compatibility between Ukrainians and Afghans to most of Europe. Ukrainians are more likely to have formal education enabling them to find a sure spot in the market place, and therefore are less likely to descend into poverty and crime as a result.
It’s not racist to say “these two very different people need very different treatment as refugees” on it’s own. Integrating the Afghans is proving to be a challenge for a lot of Europe. The same may be true for the Ukrainians, but there is some evidence to suggest that it will be less difficult and less costly. It’s unfair to expect everyone to completely ignore that cost, even if you think it’s not relevant and should not be considered.
I think all of Europe should absorb the refugees evenly; failure to stamp down on religious extremists and appeasing Russian imperialism caused this problem, so now we have to learn from those mistakes and deal with the people we allowed to be hurt by it. But I completely understand someone who says “I don’t think we should take any more of X Y or Z refugees”. I just don’t agree with them.
50% der Afghanen befürworten die Taliban, natürlich will man da lieber kulturell nähere Völker. Man kann Menschen mit einem so verschiedenen Wertesystem deutlich schwerer integrieren, Afghanistan ist in Teilen wie Europa im 19. Jahrhundert, die fehlende Bildung kann man da nicht einfach kurz eben aufholen.
Dazu ist die Ukraine deutlich näher, und ich verstehe nicht, wieso man als Afghane über 7 oder 8 Länder hinweg flüchten muss. Das Erste oder Zweite sollte doch sicher genug sein.
Zwischen uns und der Ukraine sind nur 2 Länder, das vergisst man.
Just wait for the Bünzli cunts to justify their obvious racism in this thread. It’s human nature to care more about people who look like you, but the least you can do is acknowledge it.
The amount of anti refugees have decreased anyway – atleast what i can see on social medias. And im glad for it. Same pol who say „to much living on earth, hope ww3 starts“, no covid etc.
Again: no to war, help the humans because we are all the same.
I don’t care what other people’s opinions are, I submitted my appartment to http://www.fluechtlingshilfe.ch and as soon as it’s possible, I’ll give shelter to 1 or 2 ukranian refugees.
25% of Afghans would like acts of terrorism on NATO.
Case closed I’d say.
Ns
ich glaube dass es die oertliche gemeinschaft ist… die einwohnergemeinde welche diese entscheidung finden koennte
solidaritaet waechst aus einem helfen wollen heraus
in der vergangenheit haben sich mehrere staedte in der schweiz bereit erklaert mehr fluechtlinge aufzunehmen, wurden aber von kanton und bund daran gehindert
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50% of people wants to help refugees and 50% people don’t want to.
Add to the fact that the context is different.
1. Both refugee groups have people saying “we don’t want them”, you just didn’t screenshot the nay-sayers in the top part for Ukraine.
2. Both refugee groups have people willing to help. You did not show any of the people willing to take in Afghans.
3. Nobody in this screenshot is against one and for the other.
4. Afghans and Ukrainians are not identical people.
Some people will have a fear of importing an oppressive, hostile, women-hating, gay-murdering, theocratic religious cult; not entire unjustified seeing refugee centres across Europe dealing with Afghans and other Middle-East refugees.
Even if this isn’t a factor, there is still a big difference in cultural and educational compatibility between Ukrainians and Afghans to most of Europe. Ukrainians are more likely to have formal education enabling them to find a sure spot in the market place, and therefore are less likely to descend into poverty and crime as a result.
It’s not racist to say “these two very different people need very different treatment as refugees” on it’s own. Integrating the Afghans is proving to be a challenge for a lot of Europe. The same may be true for the Ukrainians, but there is some evidence to suggest that it will be less difficult and less costly. It’s unfair to expect everyone to completely ignore that cost, even if you think it’s not relevant and should not be considered.
I think all of Europe should absorb the refugees evenly; failure to stamp down on religious extremists and appeasing Russian imperialism caused this problem, so now we have to learn from those mistakes and deal with the people we allowed to be hurt by it. But I completely understand someone who says “I don’t think we should take any more of X Y or Z refugees”. I just don’t agree with them.
50% der Afghanen befürworten die Taliban, natürlich will man da lieber kulturell nähere Völker. Man kann Menschen mit einem so verschiedenen Wertesystem deutlich schwerer integrieren, Afghanistan ist in Teilen wie Europa im 19. Jahrhundert, die fehlende Bildung kann man da nicht einfach kurz eben aufholen.
Dazu ist die Ukraine deutlich näher, und ich verstehe nicht, wieso man als Afghane über 7 oder 8 Länder hinweg flüchten muss. Das Erste oder Zweite sollte doch sicher genug sein.
Zwischen uns und der Ukraine sind nur 2 Länder, das vergisst man.
Just wait for the Bünzli cunts to justify their obvious racism in this thread. It’s human nature to care more about people who look like you, but the least you can do is acknowledge it.
The amount of anti refugees have decreased anyway – atleast what i can see on social medias. And im glad for it. Same pol who say „to much living on earth, hope ww3 starts“, no covid etc.
Again: no to war, help the humans because we are all the same.
I don’t care what other people’s opinions are, I submitted my appartment to http://www.fluechtlingshilfe.ch and as soon as it’s possible, I’ll give shelter to 1 or 2 ukranian refugees.
Someone is thinking with their dick …
top notch cherry picking. bravo.
https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/afghanistanumfrage190.html
25% of Afghans would like acts of terrorism on NATO.
Case closed I’d say.
Ns
ich glaube dass es die oertliche gemeinschaft ist… die einwohnergemeinde welche diese entscheidung finden koennte
solidaritaet waechst aus einem helfen wollen heraus
in der vergangenheit haben sich mehrere staedte in der schweiz bereit erklaert mehr fluechtlinge aufzunehmen, wurden aber von kanton und bund daran gehindert
Let’s not politicize the debate !