Donald Trump didn’t win by a historic landslide. It’s time to nip that lie in the bud

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/dec/03/donald-trump-historic-landslide-win-lie

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  1. A bit from the commentary:

    > Yes, Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college. Yes, Republicans won the Senate and the House. But, contrary to both Republican talking points and breathless headlines and hot takes from leading media outlets (“resounding”, “rout”, “runaway win”), there was really nothing at all historic or huge about the margin of victory.
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    > Repeat after me: there was no “landslide”. There was no “blowout”. There was no “sweeping” mandate given to Trump by the electorate. The numbers don’t lie.
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    > First, consider the popular vote. Yes, Trump became the first Republican for two decades to win the popular vote. However, per results from CNN, the Cook Political Report, and the New York Times, he did not win a majority of the vote. Barack Obama did in both 2008 and 2016. Joe Biden did in 2020. But Donald Trump failed to do so in 2024.
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    > And the former president’s margin of victory over Harris is a miniscule 1.6 percentage points, “smaller than that of every winning president since 1888 other than two: John F Kennedy in 1960 and Richard M. Nixon in 1968”, as an analysis in the New York Times noted last month. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, 49 of them were won with a margin bigger than Trump’s in 2024.

  2. Kamala Harris is the first Presidential Candidate since 1932 to not flip a single county.

  3. In the initial aftermath, it did look like a landslide. But now, the election looks a lot closer than it did initially.

    This was absolutely a winnable election for the democrats. They could have won if they’d just been a little smarter instead of embracing Liz Cheney.

  4. *Convicted felon, adjudicated rapist who harbored the Pedo King of NY for 20 years instead of turning him in Trump.

  5. Like that’s going to change anything. He still didn’t accept that he lost at all in 2020. And man he looks stupid, how can anyone vote for an orange bonobo?

  6. Calling it a landslide is just precursor to quelling any resistance to the shit they are planning to do. Be prepared.

  7. Who cares? Seriously, who the actual F cares?

    Landslide, 1 vote win, the new administration is about to absolutely dismantle democracy and replace it with whatever totalitarian machinations they feel like implementing.

    ‘No! You can’t appoint XYX to the department of slavery…it wasn’t a landslide!’

    ‘F off, we hold all 3 branches of govt’

    See how little it actually matters from a practical perspective?

  8. If he had literally won by 1 vote trump would call it a historic landslide, the likes of which has never been seen before in the history of the world.

  9. Yea but who won all swing states and enlarged his votes in blue states?

  12. Doesn’t matter if its a landslide or a park slide. He won.

  15. Don’t forget any election they don’t win was rigged and requires storming the capital!

  16. Who even writes this articles? He won. The end. Get used to it. FFS no wonder nobody reads The Guardian anymore

  17. I can’t believe people think that facts and reality matter anymore. There is no place for facts in Trump’s America.

  18. It doesn’t really matter. It was a landslide in the sense that we were told it would be a 50/50 election that could go either way by every single reputable polling service in the nation.

    In the end Trump won the popular vote for the first time in decades and won every single swing state. This was not a 1984 Reagan landslide but it was a landslide in the sense that Republicans won the popular vote, house, senate and Presidency.

    Stories like these are really grasping at straws to keep the negative press about Trump going.

  19. Why? He lies so much and so often it’s like trying to mop dry a full pool of water

  21. It wasn’t even a real election. How can it be, when one party will scream and fight and call the results stolen and incite an insurrection if they lose, but say fuck all about if they win? It‘s a hostage situation.

  22. He won. It doesn’t matter at this point the margin. America, you are fucked. Please don’t take the rest of us down with you (and if you do, I look forward to hearing you blame the Clinton’s or Obama)

  23. Trump won the popular vote.

    The republicans hold both houses of power. Senate and congress

    Harris did not flip a single US county

    Yes. It was a landslide

    If we don’t accept this and act accordingly the democrats will lose again

  24. I think his margin of victory matters considering he caught 34 felonies for interfering in the 2016 election, and his first impeachment was for trying to interfere in the 2020 election.

    He hasn’t won an election without cheating so far.

  25. The anomalies of bullet ballots in swing states that had never occurred before in history. Tells me that something fishy happened because if those ballots were filled out in their entirety, the majority would be staggering in the house. I don’t believe that trump won shit.

  26. Trump only won by 1.6% of the vote. There have only been five elections in U.S. history where the margin of victory was closer than that. Not a landslide by any stretch of the imagination.

  27. If it helps you sleep at night, then “nip that lie in the bud” for all I care.

  28. Man I get people are scraping the barrel but this is a bit embarrassing. He won and rather than an introspective analysis, people seem to be grasping at straws.

  30. Who cares. He won and won decisively enough that it’s not in question. We couldn’t even get him checked of power by winning Congress.

  31. It doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning’s winning – Dominic Toretto

  32. Kamala was not the best nominee by a country mile, it is time to nip that lie in the bud.

  33. It doesn’t matter if he did or not. It’s time to nip *that* lie in the bud.

  34. So what? He’s got both chambers of Congress, the White House, and a Supreme Court that has granted him pre-authorized immunity to break any law he wants as a matter of business. That’s the bottom line here.

  35. Winning both the electoral and popular vote is unique for modern Republicans. Out of Trump’s three elections, it’s the only time he has had it.

  36. who needs a “voter mandate” when you control all three branches, are immune to criminal law, have zero empathy

  37. All six swing states, popular vote and electoral college, house and the Senate is good enough for me. Call it whatever you want.

  38. He won though. Wokism, inflation and illegal immigration fueled his rise.

  39. Trump might not have won by a landslide, but Harris didn’t either. In fact she lost the house and senate to Trump along the way. As well as the popular vote. No Dem candidate received so few votes in NY state since 1988.

  40. The coping on this subject could feed republicans for generations. Take the L and move on. You got your ass kicked

  42. I don’t care if he won by 1 vote – HE WON!

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