Give them what we have and buy new ones. As many as we can.
Amazed so many people are vehemently opposed to trying to to prevent innocent people being killed. Especially given our history.
Edit: Initially at least. Not so much now.
Sounds a good idea. Tyrants shouldn’t win.
Unlike what everyone is saying here, there’s nothing actually constitutionally stopping us from giving weapons. It’s not stopping us being neutral and other neutral countries are already talking of giving weapons.
All three of them? Pretty useless posturing. Provide aid. Provide whatever is needed to the people who arrive here on flights, get the population involved in organising homes and food and transport. Focus on something meaningful that can get done instead of having pie in the sky conversations about weapons we wouldn’t even be allowed to supply.
Great idea. What could go wrong?
Did we buy the javelins from the US? Which country supplies us with this kind of equipment?
When my grandfather fought the British he did it with weapons sent from all over the world, lads here thinking they are the voice of reason saying we should’t help the Ukraine in any small way we can would do well to remember you would be second class Brits right now if the rest of the world hadn’t armed your grandparents( although I’m sure plenty of you would love nothing more)
Slava Ukraini.
We’re better off continuing to seize Russian oligarchs assets here. Oligarchs have been known to buy up real-estate in foreign countries in an attempt to hide Russian blood money, but I can’t find sources that claim they’ve invested in Irish property specifically. The US are providing funds and armaments which include St. Javelin. Unless Ukraine requires more of those specifically, I’d say leave them at it.
Although an estimated €118 billion flowed through the International Financial Services Centre (IFSC) to Russian entities from 2005 to 2017. Our Minister for Foreign Affairs, Simon Coveney, claims [the state is looking at including assets being flowed through the IFSC as part of EU sanctions](https://www.thejournal.ie/ifsc-dublin-5690846-Feb2022/).
Ya we should send what we can. We aren’t using them.
We are a neutral nation. This emotional crap needs knocked on the head.
I really don’t know if this would be a good idea. We should send as much aid as possible such as food, water etc but I’m not a fan of this. I feel that this could backfire on us.
We have those?
Let the boys on both sides empty their cupboards and send them over to a worthy cause.
Send them everything we have we don’t need it
Up the rah-cket launchers.
Get a gofund me for antitank missiles.
We have anti-tank weapons?!
What are we waiting for
Best thing I’ve heard from that wanker
The Irish, Great bunch of Lads!!
🇺🇦❤️🇮🇪
Okay so, this is maybe a stupid question, but I don’t really understand the whole “neutral” thing.
What is the idea behind just saying we’ll never get involved in a conflict?
I understand our reasons for staying neutral in WW2 for example, and I don’t feel any sort of national shame over that or anything, but realistically wouldn’t it have been better (more… fair? Moral?) if we officially joined the war effort? I just feel like we should do our part also, even if that isn’t always as big a help as the US or the UK or someone can give.
We’re obviously on the side of “the west” generally, so why hide behind this false neutrality?
Just genuinely curious, really want to hear what people think.
PS. Yes, please send your Javs. We’re working on our government to be more practical too.
The cornerstone of Ireland’s foreign policy and defense posture is that we are militarily neutral. Under absolutely no circumstances should we be exporting weapons.
Ireland can help Ukraine’s people through non-violent means. Several million Ukrainian refugees are expected to flood across Europe in the coming weeks. Ireland can take in a large number of them. We can also send food, medicine, and non-military supplies to the refugee camps in Poland that are already holding Ukrainians.
There are plenty of life savings measures we can take, so let’s do that.
wait, we have anti tank weapons?
Fair play to him, a TD doing a bit of research and coming up with ideas to help others.
These are the types that hold be in charge.
both of them?
He’s dead right, we also need an increase in military spending, more weapons, more vehicles and better wages.
If we have them yeah, why not?
Send them. God help those Ukrainians
I’m all for giving support to Ukraine as long as it’s in the guidelines of neutrality , it is true to be empathic considering our history, but our history did not include the possibility of total destruction of the entire world due to nuclear weapons. Putins reign is nearing an end, especially if this invasion fails and the question is does he send nukes or does he pull a Hitler on it.
Also I find it absurd that Leo somehow thinks he has the right to announce to the entire world of Ireland not wanting a neutral standpoint. I thought our leaders represent what we stand for lol not giving his personal opinion and masking it as Irelands Choice. I understand that Leo might hate Russia more than others considering his sexuality but it feels like he is using this situation to bring Ireland into global news or something like that.
Anyone else share similar views ? Or is it not so serious of a thing to say, politics ain’t my thing normally
I heard that Mick Wallace just shat in his pants.
Maybe I’m being cynical, but I think the idea here is to get all of these weapons in country and in the hands of Ukrainians, not necessarily with the idea that they can repel Russia outright, but that they will be able to mount a well-armed campaign of insurgency should Russia establish control over the country. Seems like the idea is that Russia will end up with an Afghanistan-style long-term military quagmire on its own doorstep.
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Give them what we have and buy new ones. As many as we can.
Amazed so many people are vehemently opposed to trying to to prevent innocent people being killed. Especially given our history.
Edit: Initially at least. Not so much now.
Sounds a good idea. Tyrants shouldn’t win.
Unlike what everyone is saying here, there’s nothing actually constitutionally stopping us from giving weapons. It’s not stopping us being neutral and other neutral countries are already talking of giving weapons.
All three of them? Pretty useless posturing. Provide aid. Provide whatever is needed to the people who arrive here on flights, get the population involved in organising homes and food and transport. Focus on something meaningful that can get done instead of having pie in the sky conversations about weapons we wouldn’t even be allowed to supply.
Great idea. What could go wrong?
Did we buy the javelins from the US? Which country supplies us with this kind of equipment?
When my grandfather fought the British he did it with weapons sent from all over the world, lads here thinking they are the voice of reason saying we should’t help the Ukraine in any small way we can would do well to remember you would be second class Brits right now if the rest of the world hadn’t armed your grandparents( although I’m sure plenty of you would love nothing more)
Slava Ukraini.
We’re better off continuing to seize Russian oligarchs assets here. Oligarchs have been known to buy up real-estate in foreign countries in an attempt to hide Russian blood money, but I can’t find sources that claim they’ve invested in Irish property specifically. The US are providing funds and armaments which include St. Javelin. Unless Ukraine requires more of those specifically, I’d say leave them at it.
Although an estimated €118 billion flowed through the International Financial Services Centre (IFSC) to Russian entities from 2005 to 2017. Our Minister for Foreign Affairs, Simon Coveney, claims [the state is looking at including assets being flowed through the IFSC as part of EU sanctions](https://www.thejournal.ie/ifsc-dublin-5690846-Feb2022/).
Ya we should send what we can. We aren’t using them.
We are a neutral nation. This emotional crap needs knocked on the head.
I really don’t know if this would be a good idea. We should send as much aid as possible such as food, water etc but I’m not a fan of this. I feel that this could backfire on us.
We have those?
Let the boys on both sides empty their cupboards and send them over to a worthy cause.
Send them everything we have we don’t need it
Up the rah-cket launchers.
Get a gofund me for antitank missiles.
We have anti-tank weapons?!
What are we waiting for
Best thing I’ve heard from that wanker
The Irish, Great bunch of Lads!!
🇺🇦❤️🇮🇪
Okay so, this is maybe a stupid question, but I don’t really understand the whole “neutral” thing.
What is the idea behind just saying we’ll never get involved in a conflict?
I understand our reasons for staying neutral in WW2 for example, and I don’t feel any sort of national shame over that or anything, but realistically wouldn’t it have been better (more… fair? Moral?) if we officially joined the war effort? I just feel like we should do our part also, even if that isn’t always as big a help as the US or the UK or someone can give.
We’re obviously on the side of “the west” generally, so why hide behind this false neutrality?
Just genuinely curious, really want to hear what people think.
PS. Yes, please send your Javs. We’re working on our government to be more practical too.
The cornerstone of Ireland’s foreign policy and defense posture is that we are militarily neutral. Under absolutely no circumstances should we be exporting weapons.
Ireland can help Ukraine’s people through non-violent means. Several million Ukrainian refugees are expected to flood across Europe in the coming weeks. Ireland can take in a large number of them. We can also send food, medicine, and non-military supplies to the refugee camps in Poland that are already holding Ukrainians.
There are plenty of life savings measures we can take, so let’s do that.
wait, we have anti tank weapons?
Fair play to him, a TD doing a bit of research and coming up with ideas to help others.
These are the types that hold be in charge.
both of them?
He’s dead right, we also need an increase in military spending, more weapons, more vehicles and better wages.
If we have them yeah, why not?
Send them. God help those Ukrainians
I’m all for giving support to Ukraine as long as it’s in the guidelines of neutrality , it is true to be empathic considering our history, but our history did not include the possibility of total destruction of the entire world due to nuclear weapons. Putins reign is nearing an end, especially if this invasion fails and the question is does he send nukes or does he pull a Hitler on it.
Also I find it absurd that Leo somehow thinks he has the right to announce to the entire world of Ireland not wanting a neutral standpoint. I thought our leaders represent what we stand for lol not giving his personal opinion and masking it as Irelands Choice. I understand that Leo might hate Russia more than others considering his sexuality but it feels like he is using this situation to bring Ireland into global news or something like that.
Anyone else share similar views ? Or is it not so serious of a thing to say, politics ain’t my thing normally
I heard that Mick Wallace just shat in his pants.
Maybe I’m being cynical, but I think the idea here is to get all of these weapons in country and in the hands of Ukrainians, not necessarily with the idea that they can repel Russia outright, but that they will be able to mount a well-armed campaign of insurgency should Russia establish control over the country. Seems like the idea is that Russia will end up with an Afghanistan-style long-term military quagmire on its own doorstep.