Reform UK’s Tice claims rising sea levels can be dealt with by “a bit of steel and cement”

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1. Christ, they truly are the inhabitants of your local pub in a political party

   just spout bollocks with next to zero knowledge

2. Yes the leaders of Reform are this stupid:

   “The Boston and Skegness MP, who is attending his party’s first ever Scottish conference in Perth today, claimed Reform was the only party backing Scotland’s oil and gas industry, and that net zero targets were “making us all poorer and reducing our quality of life”.

   “We’re the only people with the courage to have a strong conviction about it, to think that we’ve gone down completely the wrong path,” he said. “Of course, we all care about the environment, and we all want cleaner air, but technology is a great thing.

   “Look, I’m lucky enough I’m able to afford a Tesla. So, you know, not some Luddite. Of course, climate change is really it always has been, always will be. **I just think there is a naive arrogance about people who think that you can stop the power of the sun, you can stop the power of volcanoes, you can’t.**

   “What you’ve got to do, and it would be much, much cheaper, is adapt to it. Where you’ve got concerns about sea level defences and sea level rise, **guess what? A bit of steel, a bit of cement, some aggregate… and you build some concrete sea level defences**. That’s how you deal with rising sea levels. It costs you a fraction of the price of the trillions of pounds that’s being wasted naively, unilaterally in the United Kingdom.”

   Spoken like the true grifter clown show Reform UK are.

3. Really great that this guy is going to get £80m from the guy who just installed a rapist as President of the US

4. Desperately thick but successful through pure belligerence 🙁

5. It’s very odd that the same people who used to wrongly tell us man made climate change doesn’t exist are now telling us it does exist but we shouldn’t try & do anything about it.

   Although I wonder if their opinions on electric cars being a “strain” on the environment will now change.

6. Simple solutions to complex problems.

   Reform know their audience well, I’ll give them that.

7. Technically he’s not wrong. You can protect the UK from sea rise by building the biggest wall ever constructed, using probably all the concrete and aggregate in the world a few times over and then have to rebuild it again when sea level keeps rising anyway.

8. The amount of global warming/climate change that is “locked-in” is massive. Even if we stopped **all** human activity today, we’d *still* see significant climate change – including sea levels rising. IIRC if all the ice in ice caps, glaciers, etc. melted, sea levels would rise ~70m.

   IMO we should prepare for this likely scenario, even if we want to prevent it. There is only so much Britain can do to reduce the globally-caused changes, and if we need to adapt anyway – then we should focus more resources on adaptation (e.g. flood defences, winterizing infrastructure, not building on floodplains, etc.)

   I don’t think people understand the inertia of climate – the next ~100 years of change are already set in stone.

9. Classic example of a politician looking at things simplistically and thniking he’s a genius because the solution is simple.

10. They say this because their base believes this shit. Grifters are not stupid, their marks are.

11. He’s the MP for fucking Skeg, the entire coast needs defences as loads of it is near or below sea level.

    That wanker knows this and knows it’d be unimaginably expensive to do, half his constituency is going to have to live with wet knees or leave in the not too distant future.

12. so a concrete wall around, that will stop the boats as well! thats his real reason for a nicve big wall. muppet

13. This is basically Reforms view on climate stuff based on their pledges. Reduce budget, stop investments into technological advancements like carbon recapture projects, the idea we’ll get by planting trees…

14. He’s inadvertently giving a good illustration of why preventing/minimising climate change is good for the economy, even if it might not be the best thing for short term growth (won’t anyone think of the shareholders?). 

    Building a wall around the whole country would cost an absolutely obscene sum of money, it’s completely unaffordable. In reality only places with high economic output will be protected, less productive areas will be sacrificed to the sea. Huge swathes of farmland and left behind towns will be lost. The cost of food, housing, building materials will skyrocket.

15. No no, let’s give him a chance with this idea. I say we flatten the entire country, completely level everything we have built. Then, we build a giant new foundation out of steel and concrete as suggested that will raise the entire country 100m higher into the air. Then we just rebuild things.

    Added bonus for removing hills entirely.

    That should give us another 6 months to survive, given the current rate of the climate crisis.

16. We shouldn’t let people like this anywhere near government

17. What a knob.
    Even my GCSE level geography classes decades ago taught us that if the sea wants to go somewhere a bit of concrete and even massive boulders ain’t going to stop it.

18. These folks are going to be a concern in the next general election if they don’t have an actual opposition. It’s generally worrysome as they have a lot of the younger vote currently.

19. First Trump, now this guy? Why do all of these people think a damn wall is the solution to all of our problems?

20. I will never understand how people fall for these grifters.

21. He continued on after his 8th pint “and if you think about it the swimming trunk market will explode and we can sell them! LET’S OPEN A BAR!!!!”

22. What I’m learning from the right is that all problems can be solved by building a big wall.

23. Right.

    These are the people that Elon Musk wants to give 100 million quid to.

    These people. Who say things like this.

24. The Reform Party should just go by Dunning Kruger at this point

25. “An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity”

    ― Terry Davis, Creator of Temple OS

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