EU in uncharted territory: Neither France nor Germany able to provide the leadership Europe needs

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20241205-eu-in-uncharted-territory-neither-france-nor-germany-able-to-provide-the-leadership-europe-needs

by Ordinary-Mammoth-656

27 comments

  1. Germany never gave Europe the leadership it needed, but quite often tried to give it the leadership it deserved

  2. Sigh….Alrightn then we here in Belgium will have to take up that mantle…..

    With our notoriously stable political system and spotless historical reputation, we can be a beacon of hope for all other European nations.

    First things first: the EU needs at least 5 more governments!

  5. There is a pretty strong group within EU made up of Poland, the Scandinavian member states and the Baltics that have risen up after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. They have deepend security ties and met barely a week ago in Sweden. They all have in common that they take the threat from Russia seriously and see a strong EU as a necessity. I think they should take the lead and have the rest of Europe follow their example.

  7. Poland, Baltics and Scandinavia – it’s time to pull your big boy pants up and save EU

  8. Maybe this vacuum of leadership in the absence of traditionally leading countries could be the push towards a union that is lead not by the will of countries but by the will of the union itself? Maybe a bit of wishfull thinking, and it would certainly need some reforms of how EU is governed and how our leaders are chosen

  9. Makes the B word worse, particularly as we now have a government that can provide this leadership, for the first time since before this debacle.

  10. well they toatlly can, its just their current leader beeing to retard to do it

  12. Meloni with the first stable Italian government in the history of the republic: *knock knock*

  14. its time to fix the HRE again, for the 100th time this milenium

    So boys,the band needs to get back together, austria,hungary,tchech, croatia and slovenia take that lead.

    it had to happen

  17. The time has come for Malta to shine. Send out the knights!

  18. More and more countries will be facing this impasse, given that 20-30% of the voter base want to burn the post WW2 system to the ground (by voting far-right parties who want to undo Western liberal democracy), which renders government coalitions very difficult – unless they are GroKo big tent of most non far right parties.

    It’s a result of the way people vote with anger rather than logic lately.

  19. For over a decade Germany pushed for the democratisation of the EU to make the EU less reliant on a German or French voice, this was all torpedoed by other member countries.
    It was essentially a German goal to make Germany not lead the Union.

  21. The way it looks now we might have a stable government by the end of the year. You guys are seriously telling me that Belgium of all western EU countries is only one that might have a stable government by the end of the year?

  24. As long as EU keeps swinging from “why don’t Germany and France lead us, what will we do” to “reeee France and Germany can’t tell us what to do” all the time, this whole construct will never be effective.

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