So we soon have the next country run by Taliban or a look a like.
*Homs gets a knock on the door*
The offensive [included multiple rebel groups](https://www.checkthatshit.com/checks/5531?origin=1h78ma8) such as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and the Syrian National Army. Taking Hama is pretty significant, as it’s a major intersection linking Syria’s center, north, east and west.
How embarrassing for Russia to be shown how a 3 day military operation is actually completed – by rebels.
Assad is better to start looking for a flat in Moscow.
Jesus, that was fast.
What about Mudo?
Can someone explain what this means and the implications of this.
Happy to see Russia and it’s friends losing, but not happy at all that psychotic radical Islamic terrorists are winning.
In this conflict, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.
Anyone want to venture a guess on what happens when they try and take Isis land or Russian military bases?
I’m staggered by how quickly this has happened
Something tells this war doesn’t end with Assad. Turkey has influence and they also want to get rid of the Kurds (US backed) group and their religion they hold on to.
The wolves are coming for Assad at a rate of speed.
Assad’s forces had majority control for the longest time. Were they not fortifying? Or was there some next level amount of corruption going on in the army?
I have the feeling that today’s “rebels” are tomorrow’s terrorism threat for the western world.
Putin just screwed up Iran,Syria,North Korea, Africa dictators with his war against Ukraine.
Literally jihadists but sure “rebels” 🙄
Who else here is used to news from Ukraine of Russia taking months to capture a small village and got surprised by Syrian rebels getting all the way from Idlib to Aleppo to Hama in less than two weeks?
Terrifying to see Salafists gaining ground so quickly.
The Syrian Civil War is going to end before we get GTA VI.
Someone’s about to get gaddafi’d
I guess their Russian friends are a little distracted?
I give it five years before the “brave freedom fighting rebels” end up being terrorists lol.
Look for pics of Assad and wife wearing ushankas in Moscow soon.
At best, we are witnessing the rise of Syrian Taliban. At worst, this is the second coming of ISIS. HTS are jihadists and will show its true color when in power.
How many different factions are controlling this damn country I can’t keep track??? ELI5?
I must admit I am torn. On one had Assad is a terrible monster and his regime has cause the death and suffering of millions but on the other hand he sadly is a known evil. These Rebels largely consist of terrorist cells who in the past have been closely linked with Al Qaida. For all we know they could be just as gruesome if not worse than Assad. This sadly isn‘t the liberation of the Syrian people we have al hoped for but much more likely merely a change in management.
Looking at how bad the situation is in the entire Middle East currently, I do fear greatly for all the innocent civilians who have been thrown back into a war which may take all that is left of their life. Especially the Women and minority groups in Syria might be looking at a future which could barely be worse.
I truly hope that Assad will get what he deserves but this whole situation is far more uncomfortable than I had wished for even far beyond the borders of Syria. In all likeliness this wont hurt Russia and Iran as bad as some make it out and it will only lead to a new wave of refugees fleeing for Europe. The EU barely managed to handle the first refugee crisis and at the terrible cost of right wing extremism rising to highs we haven’t seen in many decades, I really don‘t want this to become worse. The divide in the EU to grow is the last thing we need right now. It will only lead to a stronger Russia and China.
What the heck was Assad doing for all these years after Putin saved his ass?
Monumental, astonishing development. Hama has been a regime stronghold since 2014 and despite repeated attempts, the rebels never managed to capture the city. Defense lines that held for years in the past fell in a week. And unlike Aleppo where regime forces disintegrated on contact, the regime tried very hard to hold Hama – the elite 47th and 25th Brigades (the 25th is the rebrand of the infamous tiger force) and elements from the elite 11th Armored were all deployed north of Hama to hold the city, there was intense fighting with very heavy artillery use from both forces
With the fall of Hama, the regime has lost a bunch of major airbases and all their associated stores and maintenance facilities, major military bases and whatever stockpiles weren’t removed or destroyed, factories, a at least theoretically loyalist population to recruit/conscript fighters from. A massive blow not just symbolically but strategically and tactically
In addition, this puts intense pressure on the regime’s heartland stronghold of Latakia, along the coast where the Russian naval base is and where most Alawites, Assad’s sect, live. Now only one major road leads from Homs to Latakia, and the rebels if they want to can push west from Hama to try and cut it. Alewi soldiers provided the bulk of the most loyal and motivated fighters the regime had especially in the dark days of 2014-6
Big next questions:
1. Regime forces withdrew from Hama – in what state are those forces? If this was a route we’ll probably see footage of abandoned vehicles soon, if more orderly we’ll see those too. How badly were these elite regime forces mauled in the fighting north of Homs?
2. Where did the regime withdraw to? there’s a major fortified base complex for the 47th Bde just South of Hama – did they pull back to there, or did they keep going further south to the next significant town, Rastan (~20km south). If the former, they are probably in decent shape, but if it’s the latter, the rebels are going to capture a ton of equipment again
3. What shape are the Rebel forces in? they’ve been constantly on the move and fighting now for a week and this offensive was emphatically not planned to be this successful – they are absorbing new recruits and equipment as they go, but their forces have to be getting exhausted and at the end of their logistic tether soon. And again the fighting around Hama was very hard, unlike Aleppo (really the whole campaign down the M5 has been hard) – what kind of losses did the rebels take? So far have not seen much footage of rebel losses, but they’ve also shown much better opsec and information discipline than they ever did in the past
4. Where will the rebels go next? Do they continue their mad dash south to try and take Homs and probably collapse the regime? Do they pause to consolidate gains around Hama ?
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wow these people actually did it!
Big up
this is huge.
So we soon have the next country run by Taliban or a look a like.
*Homs gets a knock on the door*
The offensive [included multiple rebel groups](https://www.checkthatshit.com/checks/5531?origin=1h78ma8) such as Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and the Syrian National Army. Taking Hama is pretty significant, as it’s a major intersection linking Syria’s center, north, east and west.
How embarrassing for Russia to be shown how a 3 day military operation is actually completed – by rebels.
Assad is better to start looking for a flat in Moscow.
Jesus, that was fast.
What about Mudo?
Can someone explain what this means and the implications of this.
Happy to see Russia and it’s friends losing, but not happy at all that psychotic radical Islamic terrorists are winning.
In this conflict, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.
Anyone want to venture a guess on what happens when they try and take Isis land or Russian military bases?
I’m staggered by how quickly this has happened
Something tells this war doesn’t end with Assad. Turkey has influence and they also want to get rid of the Kurds (US backed) group and their religion they hold on to.
The wolves are coming for Assad at a rate of speed.
Assad’s forces had majority control for the longest time. Were they not fortifying? Or was there some next level amount of corruption going on in the army?
I have the feeling that today’s “rebels” are tomorrow’s terrorism threat for the western world.
Putin just screwed up Iran,Syria,North Korea, Africa dictators with his war against Ukraine.
Literally jihadists but sure “rebels” 🙄
Who else here is used to news from Ukraine of Russia taking months to capture a small village and got surprised by Syrian rebels getting all the way from Idlib to Aleppo to Hama in less than two weeks?
Terrifying to see Salafists gaining ground so quickly.
The Syrian Civil War is going to end before we get GTA VI.
Someone’s about to get gaddafi’d
I guess their Russian friends are a little distracted?
I give it five years before the “brave freedom fighting rebels” end up being terrorists lol.
Look for pics of Assad and wife wearing ushankas in Moscow soon.
At best, we are witnessing the rise of Syrian Taliban. At worst, this is the second coming of ISIS. HTS are jihadists and will show its true color when in power.
How many different factions are controlling this damn country I can’t keep track??? ELI5?
Mere hours after this, Salamiyah (a town of 70k people, southeast of Hama) [surrendered without a fight](https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2024/5-december-14-the-military-administration-began-securing)
I must admit I am torn. On one had Assad is a terrible monster and his regime has cause the death and suffering of millions but on the other hand he sadly is a known evil. These Rebels largely consist of terrorist cells who in the past have been closely linked with Al Qaida. For all we know they could be just as gruesome if not worse than Assad. This sadly isn‘t the liberation of the Syrian people we have al hoped for but much more likely merely a change in management.
Looking at how bad the situation is in the entire Middle East currently, I do fear greatly for all the innocent civilians who have been thrown back into a war which may take all that is left of their life. Especially the Women and minority groups in Syria might be looking at a future which could barely be worse.
I truly hope that Assad will get what he deserves but this whole situation is far more uncomfortable than I had wished for even far beyond the borders of Syria. In all likeliness this wont hurt Russia and Iran as bad as some make it out and it will only lead to a new wave of refugees fleeing for Europe. The EU barely managed to handle the first refugee crisis and at the terrible cost of right wing extremism rising to highs we haven’t seen in many decades, I really don‘t want this to become worse. The divide in the EU to grow is the last thing we need right now. It will only lead to a stronger Russia and China.
What the heck was Assad doing for all these years after Putin saved his ass?
Monumental, astonishing development. Hama has been a regime stronghold since 2014 and despite repeated attempts, the rebels never managed to capture the city. Defense lines that held for years in the past fell in a week. And unlike Aleppo where regime forces disintegrated on contact, the regime tried very hard to hold Hama – the elite 47th and 25th Brigades (the 25th is the rebrand of the infamous tiger force) and elements from the elite 11th Armored were all deployed north of Hama to hold the city, there was intense fighting with very heavy artillery use from both forces
With the fall of Hama, the regime has lost a bunch of major airbases and all their associated stores and maintenance facilities, major military bases and whatever stockpiles weren’t removed or destroyed, factories, a at least theoretically loyalist population to recruit/conscript fighters from. A massive blow not just symbolically but strategically and tactically
In addition, this puts intense pressure on the regime’s heartland stronghold of Latakia, along the coast where the Russian naval base is and where most Alawites, Assad’s sect, live. Now only one major road leads from Homs to Latakia, and the rebels if they want to can push west from Hama to try and cut it. Alewi soldiers provided the bulk of the most loyal and motivated fighters the regime had especially in the dark days of 2014-6
Big next questions:
1. Regime forces withdrew from Hama – in what state are those forces? If this was a route we’ll probably see footage of abandoned vehicles soon, if more orderly we’ll see those too. How badly were these elite regime forces mauled in the fighting north of Homs?
2. Where did the regime withdraw to? there’s a major fortified base complex for the 47th Bde just South of Hama – did they pull back to there, or did they keep going further south to the next significant town, Rastan (~20km south). If the former, they are probably in decent shape, but if it’s the latter, the rebels are going to capture a ton of equipment again
3. What shape are the Rebel forces in? they’ve been constantly on the move and fighting now for a week and this offensive was emphatically not planned to be this successful – they are absorbing new recruits and equipment as they go, but their forces have to be getting exhausted and at the end of their logistic tether soon. And again the fighting around Hama was very hard, unlike Aleppo (really the whole campaign down the M5 has been hard) – what kind of losses did the rebels take? So far have not seen much footage of rebel losses, but they’ve also shown much better opsec and information discipline than they ever did in the past
4. Where will the rebels go next? Do they continue their mad dash south to try and take Homs and probably collapse the regime? Do they pause to consolidate gains around Hama ?
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