5 December 1994, 30 years ago today, Ukraine agreed to give up the world’s 3rd biggest nuclear arsenal, in exchange for an agreement of security and protection by the United States, U.K and Northern Ireland So far, we’ve failed miserably in our commitment to the people of Ukraine.. Slava Ukraine🇺🇦

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1. I think there’s a mistranslation. The UK’s full name is the United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The original might have thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain *and Northern Ireland*

2. Fuck Russia, fuck Putin & fuck anyone standing between Ukraine & anything that will stop this fuck fight as soon as possible 🖕

3. We can be pro-Ukrainian without spewing propaganda, hyperbole, and misinformation. Read the Budapest Memorandum. The precise wording:

   >The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and

   >Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to

   >seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to

   >Ukraine

   We fulfilled that commitment. Nobody is obligated to do more. And please spare me any blather about implied obligations… those are tenuous at best, and certainly meaningless when you’re thirty years removed from the administration that signed off on the thing in the first place.

   Should we provide aid? Of course. Are we obligated to by treaty? Absolutely not.

4. There was no agreement of protection which is obvious by reading the text posted. America agreed to respect Ukraines sovereignty by not invading or economically subordinating Ukraine. And if someone used literal nuclear weapons against Ukraine? America agreed to ask for action from the United Nations security council.

5. No surprises here, The United States has failed miserably in the commitment to its own people. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

6. It sounds like an agreement that should not have been agreed.

7. This will make small and weak countries to arm themselves with nukes everywhere as only way of protection as we cannot rely on NATO

8. Fuck all western ”leaders” that let this happen!!!!!!! They’re responsible for letting Putler wreak havoc everywhere. We are much stronger economically, militarily, morally and we can, if needed, nuke the Russians to hell but we let this miserable little bully scare our leaders with pure bullshit.
   All in now! Crush the Russofascists! Smash them! We can do it, ffs!!!

9. Commitments have been far exceeded….

10. This isn’t true. The agreement wasn’t for protection. It was a non-agression pact. Russia also signed it, they’re the only person who failed the treaty. Everyone else held up their side of the bargain.

    This misinformation only helps shift the blame away from Russia.

11. More lies. Keep repeating them. They still aren’t true. Anyone with a brain can read the text of the Budapest memorandum. The ones who actually failed was Ukraine. They didn’t spend anything on defense for thirty years and are still rife with corruption. 

12. Ukraine did not give up their nuclear arsenal. Ukraine had a pile of soviet era nuclear weapons that were under the control of Russia sitting on their territory. These nukes were managed by Russians, in Russian bases.

    The problem was Russia had no money, and maintaining nukes is expensive. So there are a pile of nukes, on your land, owned and operated by someone else that has no money to maintain them. So Ukraine was paying.

    Getting them out of Ukraine was about saving money. At the time of signing the Ukrainian president said the security guarantee components were worthless.

13. And now it is developing its own nuclear weapons. The lack of backing. By USA and NATO members has actually encouraged the arguments for having nuclear weapons to deter regimes like Putin’s

14. N. Ireland…? honestly idk the logic here on many levels, but a statesmen i am not.

15. Here’s the full document (forgive formatting I’m on mobile):

    The United States of America, the Russian Federa-
    tion, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland,
    Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty
    on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-
    nuclear-weapon State,
    Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to
    eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a
    specified period of time,
    Noting the changes in the world-wide security situ-
    ation, including the end of the Cold War, which have
    brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear
    forces.
    Confirm the following:
    1. The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to
    Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE
    [Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe]
    Final Act, to respect the Independence and Sovereignty
    and the existing borders of Ukraine.
    2. The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain
    from the threat or use of force against the territorial in-
    tegrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that
    none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine
    except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with
    the Charter of the United Nations.
    3. The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to
    Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE
    Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed
    to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by
    Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and
    thus to secure advantages of any kind.
    4. The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to seek
    immediate United Nations Security Council action to
    provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon
    State Party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of
    Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim
    of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggres-
    sion in which nuclear weapons are used.
    5. The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland, reaffirm, in the case of the Ukraine,
    their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against
    any non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty on
    the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in
    the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or
    dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies,
    by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear
    weapon state.
    6.The United States of America, the Russian Fed-
    eration, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
    Northern Ireland will consult in the event a situation
    arises which raises a question concerning these com-
    mitments.

    The USA and UK have lived up to all of their agreements. Russia has not

16. It is Russia who have failed UKR.

17. The myths about the memorandum continue.

18. Russia signed that document too, which was omitted here but kindof important.

19. Stop this lie. Literally nowhere in what you posted is there any mention of protecting or security guarantees for Ukraine other than from the country signing it. Only thing any of those countries had to do was seek UN SC council and it was done.

20. Oh For fuck’s sake

    ”

    # Ukraine agreed to give up the world’s 3rd biggest nuclear arsenal, in exchange for an agreement of security and protection by the United States, U.K and Northern Ireland ”

    FUCK RUSSIA AND FUCK PUTIN BUT THE ABOVE IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

    Why oh why do we get this lie repeated over and over and over and over again here?

    A “security assurances” are legally very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very different than security guarantees, legally speaking.

    The BM contained NO – ZERO – “security guarantees.” The US, europe, etc were and are under no obligation to provide military aid to ukraine based on the BM. We’ve been over this like 1000x here already and yet this lie persists.

    Please folks – go at least read the “analysis” section of the wiki page on the budapest memorandum and stop this bullshit so we can all get back to the important task of defeating russia now.

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