Was it Zelensky who said peace is the reward for the strong. War is punishment for the weak. We should have protected them better.
This is going to be a huge shitstain on europe and USA after the war.
The biggest mistake ever made
No country is going to willingly give up their nuclear weapons now. Ukraine has exposed ‘security guarantees’ to be entirely meaningless.
Promises mean shit, always has . It’s been semi worthless since the beginning of time and I don’t have a crystal ball but it’ll be semi worthless till the end of the universe too
Because the US security guarantee is worth shit.
” Worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever!”
Any agreement, any *peace treaty* with Ruzzia is absolutely not worth the paper it’s written on.
The only ‘thing’ Ruzzia understands and respects is overwhelming force, so it’s about time the West wised up and helped Ukraine apply some overwhelming force to Putin’s windpipe.
Tl;Dr: there was no guarantee made by anyone, the assurances were that the signatories would “refrain from attacking”, not that they would render any aid beyond bringing the situation at the UN, which is the only aid mentioned in the document, which was done
I’m a ukraine supporter, but I’m not sure if it would have stopped or deterred russia from invading even if ukraine had nukes. whoever uses nukes will be condemned by history, a nuclear war is just a lose lose situation.
only NATO membership can protect ukraine.
Even Mearsheimer thought this was a bad move. I hate agreeing with that brown noser.
But I suspect at the time, it was more understandable. Yetslin was not narcissistic and genocidal like Putin so it didn’t seem like such a great concession.
I always chuckle when people suggest Yetslin would have done the same as Putin in response to “NATO” threatening their borders.
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Cant make a deal with Russians
Was it Zelensky who said peace is the reward for the strong. War is punishment for the weak. We should have protected them better.
This is going to be a huge shitstain on europe and USA after the war.
The biggest mistake ever made
No country is going to willingly give up their nuclear weapons now. Ukraine has exposed ‘security guarantees’ to be entirely meaningless.
Promises mean shit, always has . It’s been semi worthless since the beginning of time and I don’t have a crystal ball but it’ll be semi worthless till the end of the universe too
Because the US security guarantee is worth shit.
” Worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever!”
Any agreement, any *peace treaty* with Ruzzia is absolutely not worth the paper it’s written on.
The only ‘thing’ Ruzzia understands and respects is overwhelming force, so it’s about time the West wised up and helped Ukraine apply some overwhelming force to Putin’s windpipe.
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf
It takes five minutes to read
Tl;Dr: there was no guarantee made by anyone, the assurances were that the signatories would “refrain from attacking”, not that they would render any aid beyond bringing the situation at the UN, which is the only aid mentioned in the document, which was done
I’m a ukraine supporter, but I’m not sure if it would have stopped or deterred russia from invading even if ukraine had nukes. whoever uses nukes will be condemned by history, a nuclear war is just a lose lose situation.
only NATO membership can protect ukraine.
Even Mearsheimer thought this was a bad move. I hate agreeing with that brown noser.
But I suspect at the time, it was more understandable. Yetslin was not narcissistic and genocidal like Putin so it didn’t seem like such a great concession.
I always chuckle when people suggest Yetslin would have done the same as Putin in response to “NATO” threatening their borders.
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