Posted yesterday. And no. Polls at this point are meaningless.
Stop spreading misery and panic.
People have short memories, it seems. Just as well, there won’t be an election tomorrow.
I don’t think we’re doomed, pal, so don’t get your wee keks in a knot.
Even if this latest poll was somehow predictive of a general election result four years from now, it’d result in a grand total of 10 seats for Tesco Value Hitler
I’m sure Labour will be able to obliterate their support in the next four years,
Privatise, invent a war, and sell any assets on the cheap. At least the last time we had that bit of hope with Blair since he had a personality. Sir Keith’s hard on for law and order when it’s a symptom of the issues that should be tackled. Less tough on the causes of crime.
The opposition are always more active in polls than the current leadership, and polls generally mean Jack shite.
It’s insane to have polls this far away from the election, this is just so papers can have headlines on quiet days. Besides people always say they will vote for [insert third party to the right of the conservatives] and yet the Tories are always the biggest party on the right. UKIP, BNP, Brexit Party all had one or two big wins, normally at local level or EU elections and then fizzle out. Reform might stick around for longer depending upon how committed Farage is to it but the odds of them coming second in either vote share or number of seats is very unlikely.
We call this ‘biased sampling’.
Think of the people who responded to this, think of the age, race, gender, why they were available to answer, etc basically every variable you can think of.
I can guarantee you, a specific demographic would permeate…
Polls are pointless, especially when it’s not that long after a general election. The Polls themselves won’t be a true reflection as most people won’t be answering them, just the more “politically active” people
Polls this far out have little bearing, but in all my life I’ve never seen a party squander so much goodwill, so early into a government term.
Starmer and Reeves are dry, dour managerialists. They make Gordon Brown look like Liberace.
Reeves’ opening gambit that everything was terrible was like someone dragging dog shit through their own wedding reception.
Steady the buffs!
I’m sure Prime Minister Farage will have Scotland’s best interests at heart.
/S
Outlier poll barely 6 months in, I’d be more worried of this was a year out from an election.
This is why letting other countries choose your government is unhealthy
We are doomed to red and blue yoons until the other 55% of us find their balls and vote indy.
What some people in this thread appear to be missing – While these polls won’t translate in an actual election, what these types of polls may do (assuming they remain consistent), is force both parties further to right.
And given Labour’s performance so far, and how politically brain-dead Keir Starmer appears to be, I’ve zero confidence in him looking at these polls and going, “OK, better make sure I am combating the narratives that are resulting in people moving to more reactionary movements, and offer a progressive alternative.”
Nah, we’re way too far out from the election to make any reasonable predictions.
But what it does tell us is that if Labour doesn’t make solid inroads in sorting out the economy, immigration, housing over the next 3-4 years, then, yes, we may be fucked.
Some guy just shot and killed a cunt CEO.
There is hope
Reform/Tory coalition is likely unless Labour can up their game
Nobody to blame but ourselves, we shat it in 2014
Being at the whim of an increasing right wing nationalist English electorate will have that effect, how anyone can say this situation is preferable to an independent Scotland getting the government it actually votes for is incomprehensible to me.
Propaganda’s a hell of a drug
This is exactly what happens when the left abandons the plight of the poor for the luxury beliefs of academia.
Most people vote for the party that tells them the best story. It doesn’t have to be realistic or achievable. It just has to promise a better life for the voter.
No we are not doomed. Most people aren’t extremest left and would rather tax payer money is spent on Scottish people rather than fake asylum seekers who do not want to integrate or work. People have started to wake up.
Sites like this are full of woke leftist who are the loud minority on here but in reality no one feels the same way and most people are virtue signal out of fear of losing their job!
A single poll, 4.5 years out from an election, produced by a polling company few have heard of. And we are losing our minds over it?
Give over.
Reform landslide please.
I don’t support reform at all but the country is on a slippery slope and reform will speed up the process.
Once we hit the bottom, the only direction is back up…
Don’t the polls always do this, as soon as someone new comes in and says “oops we lied because we didn’t know about something” the polls hammer them.
The fact that he’s a lawyer (and has argued for genocide recognition) and there’s a genocide going on probably doesn’t help.
Starmer is slimy, and that’s the worst trait in a politician. There’s still a statesman like quality about saying you’re doing it your way, but he’s not playing it well.
Saved actually. GO REFORM. 🇬🇧🏴
I actually can’t believe that Tories are making inroads in Scotland again. Do none of these people have grandparents?
Has historical knowledge stopped being passed down generations?
How’s it possible conservative would be the most voted party just after 5 months of Labour? Does people want to go back to those 14 years of shit ?
take a look at the state of your country under the SNP
top 4 are basically the same now
Yup.
They’re all from the same bought and paid for slug farm so who cares.
Not really.
Firstly, there’s no proportional representation ar Westminster. This was already an ‘issue’ at the last general election.
Reform had loads of votes across the UK, just rarely ‘the most’ for any given seat. Being second everywhere doesn’t count for much in the UK.
Bigger issue with the tories, because they actually win seats. But again, in Scotland that won’t make a big difference specifically, and Labrador are doing the exact same thing as the tories were – so there’s no real difference to the population of Scotland.
The UK desperately needs proportional representation, on a BY COUNTRY basis – but for that to succeed England would have to accept an equal vote on national matters by Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so it won’t ever happen. You know, like David Cameron claimed was already the case, but then forgot about for Brexit when Norn Iron and Scotland (plis Gibraltar) voted remain and England and Wales voted leave. I make that 3:2 for remain for all parties invited to voice their non-binding opinion.
For now frothing reform not going anywhere, is an accidental perk of an otherwise fundamentally a-democratic first past the post system.
What do Reform stand for? What do they want to “Reform”?
Reform uk means no corruption handguns and peace baby uuurahhh
No you’re not. Stop being such a drama Queen
Probably! I abandoned the country.
Glory to reform
This is one singular poll. Most polls still give Labour a lead, tho all agreed it’s narrowed since election day.
All the polls that have gave the Tories a lead come from one of two pollsters, “Find out now” and “More in common”. Meanwhile a more diverse range of pollsters have given Labour a lead.
This suggests there’s more likely something wrong with Find out Now’s and More in Common’s methodogy, or it’s just within a margin of error.
In November, 10 polls gave Labour a lead, while 4 gave the Tories a lead. And again, those 4 only come from those 2 pollsters.
Were also 4½ years away from the next general election, so a lot can change.
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Posted yesterday. And no. Polls at this point are meaningless.
Stop spreading misery and panic.
People have short memories, it seems. Just as well, there won’t be an election tomorrow.
I don’t think we’re doomed, pal, so don’t get your wee keks in a knot.
Even if this latest poll was somehow predictive of a general election result four years from now, it’d result in a grand total of 10 seats for Tesco Value Hitler
And a Labour majority
[https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast](https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast)
I’m sure Labour will be able to obliterate their support in the next four years,
Privatise, invent a war, and sell any assets on the cheap. At least the last time we had that bit of hope with Blair since he had a personality. Sir Keith’s hard on for law and order when it’s a symptom of the issues that should be tackled. Less tough on the causes of crime.
The opposition are always more active in polls than the current leadership, and polls generally mean Jack shite.
It’s insane to have polls this far away from the election, this is just so papers can have headlines on quiet days. Besides people always say they will vote for [insert third party to the right of the conservatives] and yet the Tories are always the biggest party on the right. UKIP, BNP, Brexit Party all had one or two big wins, normally at local level or EU elections and then fizzle out. Reform might stick around for longer depending upon how committed Farage is to it but the odds of them coming second in either vote share or number of seats is very unlikely.
We call this ‘biased sampling’.
Think of the people who responded to this, think of the age, race, gender, why they were available to answer, etc basically every variable you can think of.
I can guarantee you, a specific demographic would permeate…
Polls are pointless, especially when it’s not that long after a general election. The Polls themselves won’t be a true reflection as most people won’t be answering them, just the more “politically active” people
Polls this far out have little bearing, but in all my life I’ve never seen a party squander so much goodwill, so early into a government term.
Starmer and Reeves are dry, dour managerialists. They make Gordon Brown look like Liberace.
Reeves’ opening gambit that everything was terrible was like someone dragging dog shit through their own wedding reception.
Steady the buffs!
I’m sure Prime Minister Farage will have Scotland’s best interests at heart.
/S
Outlier poll barely 6 months in, I’d be more worried of this was a year out from an election.
This is why letting other countries choose your government is unhealthy
We are doomed to red and blue yoons until the other 55% of us find their balls and vote indy.
What some people in this thread appear to be missing – While these polls won’t translate in an actual election, what these types of polls may do (assuming they remain consistent), is force both parties further to right.
And given Labour’s performance so far, and how politically brain-dead Keir Starmer appears to be, I’ve zero confidence in him looking at these polls and going, “OK, better make sure I am combating the narratives that are resulting in people moving to more reactionary movements, and offer a progressive alternative.”
Nah, we’re way too far out from the election to make any reasonable predictions.
But what it does tell us is that if Labour doesn’t make solid inroads in sorting out the economy, immigration, housing over the next 3-4 years, then, yes, we may be fucked.
Some guy just shot and killed a cunt CEO.
There is hope
Reform/Tory coalition is likely unless Labour can up their game
Nobody to blame but ourselves, we shat it in 2014
Being at the whim of an increasing right wing nationalist English electorate will have that effect, how anyone can say this situation is preferable to an independent Scotland getting the government it actually votes for is incomprehensible to me.
Propaganda’s a hell of a drug
This is exactly what happens when the left abandons the plight of the poor for the luxury beliefs of academia.
Most people vote for the party that tells them the best story. It doesn’t have to be realistic or achievable. It just has to promise a better life for the voter.
No we are not doomed. Most people aren’t extremest left and would rather tax payer money is spent on Scottish people rather than fake asylum seekers who do not want to integrate or work. People have started to wake up.
Sites like this are full of woke leftist who are the loud minority on here but in reality no one feels the same way and most people are virtue signal out of fear of losing their job!
A single poll, 4.5 years out from an election, produced by a polling company few have heard of. And we are losing our minds over it?
Give over.
Reform landslide please.
I don’t support reform at all but the country is on a slippery slope and reform will speed up the process.
Once we hit the bottom, the only direction is back up…
Don’t the polls always do this, as soon as someone new comes in and says “oops we lied because we didn’t know about something” the polls hammer them.
The fact that he’s a lawyer (and has argued for genocide recognition) and there’s a genocide going on probably doesn’t help.
Starmer is slimy, and that’s the worst trait in a politician. There’s still a statesman like quality about saying you’re doing it your way, but he’s not playing it well.
Saved actually. GO REFORM. 🇬🇧🏴
I actually can’t believe that Tories are making inroads in Scotland again. Do none of these people have grandparents?
Has historical knowledge stopped being passed down generations?
How’s it possible conservative would be the most voted party just after 5 months of Labour? Does people want to go back to those 14 years of shit ?
take a look at the state of your country under the SNP
top 4 are basically the same now
Yup.
They’re all from the same bought and paid for slug farm so who cares.
Not really.
Firstly, there’s no proportional representation ar Westminster. This was already an ‘issue’ at the last general election.
Reform had loads of votes across the UK, just rarely ‘the most’ for any given seat. Being second everywhere doesn’t count for much in the UK.
Bigger issue with the tories, because they actually win seats. But again, in Scotland that won’t make a big difference specifically, and Labrador are doing the exact same thing as the tories were – so there’s no real difference to the population of Scotland.
The UK desperately needs proportional representation, on a BY COUNTRY basis – but for that to succeed England would have to accept an equal vote on national matters by Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so it won’t ever happen. You know, like David Cameron claimed was already the case, but then forgot about for Brexit when Norn Iron and Scotland (plis Gibraltar) voted remain and England and Wales voted leave. I make that 3:2 for remain for all parties invited to voice their non-binding opinion.
For now frothing reform not going anywhere, is an accidental perk of an otherwise fundamentally a-democratic first past the post system.
What do Reform stand for? What do they want to “Reform”?
Reform uk means no corruption handguns and peace baby uuurahhh
No you’re not. Stop being such a drama Queen
Probably! I abandoned the country.
Glory to reform
This is one singular poll. Most polls still give Labour a lead, tho all agreed it’s narrowed since election day.
All the polls that have gave the Tories a lead come from one of two pollsters, “Find out now” and “More in common”. Meanwhile a more diverse range of pollsters have given Labour a lead.
This suggests there’s more likely something wrong with Find out Now’s and More in Common’s methodogy, or it’s just within a margin of error.
In November, 10 polls gave Labour a lead, while 4 gave the Tories a lead. And again, those 4 only come from those 2 pollsters.
Were also 4½ years away from the next general election, so a lot can change.
It’s nothing to be concerned about.
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