
Tim Walz Says He Was ‘a Little Surprised’ Trump Won
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/us/politics/tim-walz-trump-harris-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.fk4.JrD5.v_B-OvK-Vn38&smid=url-share

Tim Walz Says He Was ‘a Little Surprised’ Trump Won
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/us/politics/tim-walz-trump-harris-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.fk4.JrD5.v_B-OvK-Vn38&smid=url-share
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> Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota said this week that he was “a little surprised” that he and Vice President Kamala Harris lost the presidential election to Donald J. Trump because he had believed the country was ready for the Democratic ticket’s “positive message.”
> Sitting on Thursday for his first interviews since the election, Mr. Walz told Minneapolis television stations that he had believed Democrats had the advantage in the election — which Mr. Trump won by capturing all seven battleground states and becoming the first Republican to carry the national popular vote in 20 years.
> “It felt like at the rallies, at the things I was going to, the shops I was going in, that the momentum was going our way, and it obviously wasn’t at the end,” Mr. Walz told KSTP-TV. “So yeah, I was a little surprised. I thought we had a positive message, and I thought the country was ready for that.”
> Mr. Walz’s admission that he was surprised by Ms. Harris’s defeat was at odds with a more dour assessment of the campaign’s chances by its senior leaders, who appeared late last month on a friendly podcast, “Pod Save America.”
Most of us were … We hoped that our fellow voters weren’t quite as stupid as they turned out to be.
America just proved to the world that we’re every bit as stupid as they think we are
Trump and Fox News effectively sold voters on nonissues. Just *electing* Trump has already “solved” these issues. Post birth abortions are no more. Migrant crime has plummeted. The economy is roaring.
Republicans have been dumbing down the population for decades with Fox News. Never underestimate the power of stupidity coupled with propaganda.
You’re not the only one
Tim Walz was done dirty by the Harris campaign staffers. He came out swinging then was muzzled in favour of capturing suburban republican votes.
I mean, it should always be surprising someone like Trump won. Otherwise you might as well just give up.
Musk helped Trump win
Alot of voters are not happy with the economy, as in, they are having a hard time keeping the tank full and the fridge stocked. Prices are hurting alot of people. Trump was able to convince his voters he had all the answers. Biden has been working on fixing the economy, but his policies were not working fast enough. I’m worried the disconnect of the democratic politicians and the voters will hurt the democratic party if they don’t work towards doing things the voters want….aka: raising the federal minimum wage, single payer health insurance, labor rights, no waste laws, and something to fix the overpriced housing.
Humans are irrational in many ways. Electing somebody like Trump doesn’t make sense imo…
I was too. I didn’t think we were this racist. I didn’t think we put so little value on women’s lives. I didn’t think people were so blind to all the lies. I didn’t think people would elect a convicted felon, or a rapist. I didn’t think “Christians” would ignore all of this, or put aside their values to elect a felon and rapist.
A rapist who parties with famous pedophiles and admits to walking in on underage girls while they’re getting dressed won the election. I think it’s fair to say a lot of people were surprised.
The propaganda won and Democrats and anyone living outside of the influence of that propaganda have been blindsided.
All of a sudden the Vice President position isn’t able to solve all the nations problems and has gone back to being almost invisible.
Musk helped him cheat by texting specific groups lies en masse
I was a little surprised to learn that much of America has values that are so very different from mine. I was able to chalk up some of 2016 to ignorance, and when he lost in 2020, I thought people had learned. By 2024, there’s just no excuse. It was a deliberate choice, so I am having to confront the fact that so much of America is either cruel, evil, and anti-American, or is comfortable enough with it to condone it as long as they get cheaper gas and groceries (which, of course, they won’t, so there’s the ignorance part).
Fox isn’t news and it isnt media. It is social engineering:
Dictionary:
the use of centralized planning in an attempt to manage social change and regulate the future development and behavior of a society.
“the country’s unique blend of open economics and social engineering”
2.
(in the context of information security) the use of deception to manipulate individuals into divulging confidential or personal information that may be used for fraudulent purposes.
“people with an online account should watch for phishing attacks and other forms of social engineering”
This is my argument against Fox and the conservative media: They are social engineers perpetuating scareware against Americans.
I’m disappointed but not surprised. The American electorate is literally insane and will make the dumbest choices at the most critical moments so this is pretty much par for the course.
We all were
Harris and Walz are still getting trashed around the clock on Fox News. I was on vacation last week and fam had on FN multiple hours per day. They were praising Trump like a deity while painting Harris, Biden etc as radical extreme leftists out of touch with America who they say destroyed the economy, let migrants in with open arms and allowed cities to become war zones, etc. it was just nonstop coverage of migrants and that Trump won’t have any of it and will step in to save America. Millions of people think Trump is some kind of alpha Rambo with super-genius IQ.
It’s a concerning time for America moving forward, especially with 77 million people voting for a candidate with a controversial past and a felon. It’s troubling that there seems to be a lack of conscience after all Trump did. This situation could potentially lead the country down a path of division and hostility. It’s reminiscent of how Germany was after WW1, which ultimately led to a dictatorship. I already said during Biden’s election that I’m scared of those who voted for Trump because those folks are decided.
A lot of other people did too. I still have my Harris/Walz poster up
He’s not the only one..
Me too, Tim, me too.
With radio, TV, social media, and influencers like Rogan constantly on repeat, it’s inevitable that some people will follow the charlatans. The left needs to reclaim its presence on the airwaves. In places like South Florida, right-wing media dominates radio nonstop. Local TV stations also need to be taken back. Platforms like TikTok are no better—every third video seems to portray Trump in a flattering light. That needs to change. Both traditional and digital media are heavily consumed, and we must expand beyond spaces like Reddit to make our voices heard once again.
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