In before some nimrod posts about hurf durf what about safe spaces for men?
I like this idea, anything that contributes to making women safer when they’re just going about their daily lives has to be a good thing, right? It’s all well and good saying “we should just educate men and boys to not be cunts”, but I’m pretty sure we do all of that already… some people just can’t help themselves.
I remember seeing something like this in Wakefield a few years back:
It was basically a robust-looking portacabin on one of the main streets that had some police or council people in during the evenings, where you could go and get help. No idea if it’s still there or if the scheme was a success.
Before the MRAs descend, there’s nothing on the BID website to suggest men would be turned away and the language on the site is gender neutral. The focus is decreasing VAWG but it doesn’t say it is for women and girls only.
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Sounds like a good idea. It’s a real shame that it is needed, but whilst it is, it’s a good solution.
Ideally, we would go back to the old days of actually having police stations and police-boxes on all streets/areas all the time.
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A service that used to be provided by the police.
Imagine a world where PC’s walked a beat, rather than driving a fast as they can to take and record report after report. The old days of a cop being a visible and approachable symbol of safty is gone. You could expect to see somone walking the beat, see the helmet making its way through the crowds in town and them being approachable. If you were in trouble you could run towards them for help. People up to no good had to look over their shoulder because they knew the bobby on the beat could come round the corner at any point.
Imagine a world where if you were being hastled or felt unsafe you could find a cop, especially on a night out there should be clearly uniformed and visible police in the night time economy areas.
The culture has changed, I get more and more pissed off when parents see you and say “Behave or he will take you away and lock you up!” Sometimes the child even get visibly scared or cries. What a stupid thing to do. So the child learns to fear the police rather than seek them out if they are lost or in danger. Something that sticks with them through life.
Failures and poor work also undermined the police but those failures are the minority but are blown up and spread as if the norm. Everyone has personal anecdotes of the police letting them down in some way. None the less the entire purpose is to deal with crime and safeguard victims. If they were properly managed we wouldnt need powerless charaties setting up these boxes.
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My partner goes out every couple of months with friends and I always worry about weirdos approaching her, so if they rolled something out like this on Edinburgh that’d be great for me personally.
She doesn’t worry or at least pretends not to so that I don’t worry but I know what drunk leery men are like and they’re even worse in the early hours after a lot of consumption.
People in this thread:
> Why do only DEAD people get funerals? What about the LIVING? DISCRIMINATION!
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It’s quite remarkable that people seemed to correctly identify that men forcing themselves into discussions about women’s safety is unhelpful at best when an article was posted the other day about a man literally forcing himself into a discussion on TV, yet this thread is still full of “WHAT ABOUT THE MEN THO???”
We used to have cctv in our towns and cities that were manned by a human operators , the operator was removed in many cases meaning crimes were not reported only recorded. Many times incidents could be forseen by an operator and monitored or reported, add this to the reduction of actual bobbies on the beat and it’s really no suprise that our streets feel unsafe for many different individuals at night. We should not finance a small safe “space” when all space should be safe to begin with. This is like putting a plaster on the cut of a broken leg.
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If the men in here derailing the thread with “What about men!!!” put half as much effort into creating spaces and resources for men in trouble, they wouldn’t be here in the first place.
Local town has been trialling this on Saturday nights, which is great apart from the fact when i needed it, i was out on a Wednesday waiting for the last bus home.
Luckily i got to another bar and asked for Angela and they actually knew what it was for.
I understand that with these safe spaces it’s a cost to run/charity thing. Staff need training and dbs checks ect.
I wish it wasn’t needed at all. Unfortunately punishments for the men doing these things towards women are pathetic and not enough to scare them into stopping.
Such a shame that we are in a situation where this is desired, planned out and implemented. Should never have to be the case but apart from giving every woman a Desert Eagle then what can you do
All the women I speak to feel like this is a recent problem. 15 years ago it was much safer at night.
I hate that this is a thing we need in this country in the 21st century.
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In before some nimrod posts about hurf durf what about safe spaces for men?
I like this idea, anything that contributes to making women safer when they’re just going about their daily lives has to be a good thing, right? It’s all well and good saying “we should just educate men and boys to not be cunts”, but I’m pretty sure we do all of that already… some people just can’t help themselves.
I remember seeing something like this in Wakefield a few years back:
https://www.kellinggroup.com/welfare-hire-unit-creates-safe-space-for-women-in-wakefield/
It was basically a robust-looking portacabin on one of the main streets that had some police or council people in during the evenings, where you could go and get help. No idea if it’s still there or if the scheme was a success.
Before the MRAs descend, there’s nothing on the BID website to suggest men would be turned away and the language on the site is gender neutral. The focus is decreasing VAWG but it doesn’t say it is for women and girls only.
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Sounds like a good idea. It’s a real shame that it is needed, but whilst it is, it’s a good solution.
Ideally, we would go back to the old days of actually having police stations and police-boxes on all streets/areas all the time.
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A service that used to be provided by the police.
Imagine a world where PC’s walked a beat, rather than driving a fast as they can to take and record report after report. The old days of a cop being a visible and approachable symbol of safty is gone. You could expect to see somone walking the beat, see the helmet making its way through the crowds in town and them being approachable. If you were in trouble you could run towards them for help. People up to no good had to look over their shoulder because they knew the bobby on the beat could come round the corner at any point.
Imagine a world where if you were being hastled or felt unsafe you could find a cop, especially on a night out there should be clearly uniformed and visible police in the night time economy areas.
The culture has changed, I get more and more pissed off when parents see you and say “Behave or he will take you away and lock you up!” Sometimes the child even get visibly scared or cries. What a stupid thing to do. So the child learns to fear the police rather than seek them out if they are lost or in danger. Something that sticks with them through life.
Failures and poor work also undermined the police but those failures are the minority but are blown up and spread as if the norm. Everyone has personal anecdotes of the police letting them down in some way. None the less the entire purpose is to deal with crime and safeguard victims. If they were properly managed we wouldnt need powerless charaties setting up these boxes.
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My partner goes out every couple of months with friends and I always worry about weirdos approaching her, so if they rolled something out like this on Edinburgh that’d be great for me personally.
She doesn’t worry or at least pretends not to so that I don’t worry but I know what drunk leery men are like and they’re even worse in the early hours after a lot of consumption.
People in this thread:
> Why do only DEAD people get funerals? What about the LIVING? DISCRIMINATION!
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It’s quite remarkable that people seemed to correctly identify that men forcing themselves into discussions about women’s safety is unhelpful at best when an article was posted the other day about a man literally forcing himself into a discussion on TV, yet this thread is still full of “WHAT ABOUT THE MEN THO???”
We used to have cctv in our towns and cities that were manned by a human operators , the operator was removed in many cases meaning crimes were not reported only recorded. Many times incidents could be forseen by an operator and monitored or reported, add this to the reduction of actual bobbies on the beat and it’s really no suprise that our streets feel unsafe for many different individuals at night. We should not finance a small safe “space” when all space should be safe to begin with. This is like putting a plaster on the cut of a broken leg.
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If the men in here derailing the thread with “What about men!!!” put half as much effort into creating spaces and resources for men in trouble, they wouldn’t be here in the first place.
Local town has been trialling this on Saturday nights, which is great apart from the fact when i needed it, i was out on a Wednesday waiting for the last bus home.
Luckily i got to another bar and asked for Angela and they actually knew what it was for.
I understand that with these safe spaces it’s a cost to run/charity thing. Staff need training and dbs checks ect.
I wish it wasn’t needed at all. Unfortunately punishments for the men doing these things towards women are pathetic and not enough to scare them into stopping.
Such a shame that we are in a situation where this is desired, planned out and implemented. Should never have to be the case but apart from giving every woman a Desert Eagle then what can you do
All the women I speak to feel like this is a recent problem. 15 years ago it was much safer at night.
I hate that this is a thing we need in this country in the 21st century.
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