Ukraine prepares meeting of countries to develop joint position on ending war – Ukrainian President’s Office

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1. >The spokesperson announced that Ukraine plans to hold a meeting of these countries in December “to coordinate and develop a unified position” to ensure Ukraine’s strength “in any scenario – both at the negotiation table and on the battlefield”.

   I’ll be honest I don’t think that’s a believable outcome

2. The title says “joint position on ending the war”, but everything else reads like a “joint position on continuing the war for as long as possible, preferably forever”.

   Because if one of the conditions is getting the lost territories back, because of course it is, then that’s not going to happen anytime soon, if ever.

   Same goes with talks about any kind of negotiations, which just aren’t going to happen until Ukraine lifts its own constitutionally enshrined ban on holding them in the first place.

   Everything about Ukraine is fake, lies and a whole lot of gaslighting. If you simply invert everything they are saying as a general rule of thumb, then you will be infinitely closer to the truth than otherwise.

   What they are really trying to do is continue the conversation on “joining NATO” but without the US and Trump’s “peace plan”; that Ukraine doesn’t want to be seen as unilaterally rejecting, so they’re just gathering more heads to share the blame between.

3. Is this another one of those “peace” meetings where they demand that Russia leaves all occupied territories *and* pays reparations and surrenders unconditionally for absolutely nothing in return? I think they’ve had 2 of those already. 3rd time’s the charm maybe

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