MP outlines opposition to calls to ban first-cousin marriage in the UK
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/mps-marriage-commons-batley-dewsbury-b1199171.html
by insomnimax_99
MP outlines opposition to calls to ban first-cousin marriage in the UK
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/mps-marriage-commons-batley-dewsbury-b1199171.html
by insomnimax_99
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I was going to question who would oppose this. Then I read the article.
I’m not doing a survey to read an article thank you.
As the MP quoted is trying to address delicately, this is extremely common in certain communities and absolutely is associated with various, often quite visible medical problems. I know personally some doctors who, when working on placements in particular regions, are essentially trained to always ask patients when they come in very specifically if their parents are cousins (done very matter-of-factly and without any offense meant or hopefully taken). An important issue, and undoubtedly a difficult one to try and address effectively and sensitively.
> Iqbal Mohamed
Ah, one of Corbyn’s pals. And there’s still people out there who can’t fathom why Jeremy never became PM
It’s crazy how this was a problem that was more or less resolved naturally and now needs to be resolved again through legislation.
Make them pay for all their disgusting inbred health conditions at the tax payers expense then.
It’s clearly not marriage that’s the issue, shouldn’t be trying to walk on eggshells because a certain demographic likes to sleep with and have kids with their cousins, like banning marriage will stop that.
Add a cousin relationship under existing laws on incest and then target certain communities ruthlessly, DNA tests if it’s suspected, 15 years in prison when it’s confirmed, should nip it in the bud mostly
The MP’s name is Iqbal Mohamed.
Well well well. Tickle me surprised…
Why not just marry someone who isn’t your relative?
This talks about marriage but what about first cousin civil partnership?!
> He added: “The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people see family inter-marriage overall as something that is very positive, something that helps build family bonds and helps put families on a more secure financial foothold.
Just think, if we all did it then it would reduce the amount of old people we need to look after… and we could marry our sexy cousins. High six!
To be fair, Bradford’s first cousin marriages dropped down to 40% (from around **60%**), so they’re getting better. They also, disproportionately, therefore have the highest rate of children born with disabilities (and a greater share of the associated benefits).
Regardless, the ones who make it out “normal” will then get married off to their cousins, and this causes even greater issues for *their* children, etc, etc.
Entire south Asian community in fits of tears right now
He doesn’t want the state intervention on marriage, instead he thinks state run genetic screening is a better approach…..
I watched an unbelievable documentary a while ago, and the rate of births and children with massive additional needs, and the demand on the NHS in given areas was staggering.
Two male cousins marrying wouldn’t be an issue. It’s just the kids that result from this so just make cousin sex a tire of incest under law rather than trying to change marriage. I’d have thought support over incest would be easier to garner as people get quite defensive over charging marriage
Opposing this when certain communities have married and procreated themselves into having high risks of various diseases/conditions is stupid.
Most Islamic countries see anywhere from 30-60%+ cousin marriage rates.
It’s deep within the culture, it’s not just a modern thing.
Having kids with your cousin is one thing – and has adverse physical and cognitive health effects.
But this is generational. Your typical Pakistani kid is the child of cousins, and their parents were cousins, and their parents were cousins. Going back generations, hundred of years, it’s cousin marriage all the down.
You’d suspect it’s why they generally look very unappealing, have lower IQs, and behave in less-than-civilised ways compared to their western counterparts. Certainly, I don’t imagine generations of inbreeding does those things any favours.
The thing to say before asking this is I personally have no first cousins – I have literally no skin in the game here.
Are cousin marriages more common in rural communities, where I’d imagine the local pub only has so many people around the same age?
Or is this exclusively a culture issue?
I’m struggling to understand how many people this is likely to affect, having lived in a city my whole life.
As someone who has disabled half siblings because of cousin marriage, they definitely should be banned. People are reckless and don’t get genetic testing done before procreating with their first cousins sometimes. Anyone who agrees with this shit doesn’t not have close relatives or friends who are disabled because their parents are first cousins.
Save you a click, it’s the Islamic bunch who want to fuck their cousin. No suprises.
Super weird to argue in favour of marrying cousins imo but just curious how this would be enforced? Would 2 people getting married have to prove they’re not related? Would it not be quite easy to circumvent this?
Considering who is opposing this.. not a surprise.
That said, it should be easy to pass this bill considering he’s in the minority (literally and figuratively) of MPs who would oppose it.
Absurd there’s even a defence to this, but then we guessed who it would be.
Given the alarming rates of birth defects in particular multicultural communities due incest behaviours – it’s a cost to the NHS / and us.
Even if you banned it now and changed how we recognize overseas marriages – it would take decades to fix the issue.
It’s so localized to Bradford that at this point they are all cousins essentially so it will take generations to fix.
Nationally for example 1/25 people are carriers of a mutation that will lead to Cystic Fibrosis. However in Cork (and also parts of the Middle East) where they have had closed populations for generations the frequency can be as high as 1/8. So huge numbers of children are born with CF.
Interesting that he thinks the way to deal with the issue is to offer enhanced genetic testing.
So who’s paying for that?
However, I guess there is the argument that preventing the potential birth of a disabled person will ultimately save the NHS money.
Nah – just ban cousins marrying.
“Let’s not sitgmatize cousins marriage. Back in the Middle East we have all sorts of ways to screen for any risks”
I feel like calling for a “positive” approach to incest should be a red flag for a politician, regardless of personal beliefs
Serious question.
If this bill were to pass and outlaw cousin marriage in the UK, would the UK recognise such marriages that take place in countries where they are legal?
Would it stop a marriage between British cousins if the marriage took place elsewhere?
Who would oppose this. Oh wait………….. now I am *****phobic
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