A sad case of politicians making political decisions about medical matters.
Sanity prevailing in the oddest of places
It’s frustrating because most science supports their use for trans children but ideologues who won’t even spend the time to speak to these children and their parents are forcing their opinions on these children.
We need to remember that Trans Children become Trans Adults, neglecting these children and dismissing their identity because fabricated media panic about a tiny section of society will only foster resentment and harm.
Massively relieved by this news.
Contrary to popular assumption, puberty blockers are not reversible. They cause irreparable harm, which is why they’re being discontinued for this purpose.
Please, if you haven’t already, look up the Cass report. It’s why the Tavistock clinic got shut down. This isn’t about hating on trans folks, it’s about protecting kids.
TLDR: osteoporosis, sterility, negative affect on cognitive function, child loses all potential for sexual function, deeply questionable application of informed consent legislation.
Is this actually a controversial thing?
Or is it just a controversial decision on reddit. I’d imagine most people approve of this (outside reddit)
Common sense prevails. The mods will lock this post soon because it doesn’t suit their politics.
How many people does this actually affect? It seems like a massively overblown issue.
Didn’t the HSE find that there’s like 3 minors in the Republic making use of blockers? Surely couldn’t be much higher in NI.
I see it as politics infecting healthcare which makes me feel uneasy.
Good, finally some common sense
I personally agree with this one.
I think it’s too big a decision to be left up to children to decide. They should have to wait until they’re 18 to make an informed decision for themselves with how they’d like to proceed.
Even if 95% of them continue to have the same thoughts once they reach adulthood, it’s probably best to play it safe until you can be 100% sure they understand the weight of decisions like this.
Just having parental consent seems a bit iffy to me as well, because while a parent might be able to make very educated decisions on certain aspects of their child’s health, gender identity is such a personal and internal issue that I don’t think any parent can understand it well enough to make decisions on it either.
is it bad I don’t really know how to feel about this?.
Really disappointing. If puberty blockers were really as “dangerous” and “irreversible” as some claim them to be, they’d be banned for cis kids going through precocious puberty, but they’re still allowed to get them.
People should be allowed do what they want with their bodies, but only when they’re adults. That shouldn’t be a contentious issue at all imo. I would argue for 21+ even.
There isn’t a 30+ yo on earth who is the same person as they were at 14-21. If you mature and still want to transition then it should be safely accessible for sure
If I brought my 10 year old to get a tattoo I’d be arrested. But the same logic doesn’t apply to much more severe consequences for some reason.
Good riddance we should do the same
Fuckin tans
Sinn Fein UK and Sinn Fein Ireland once again differ on policy
I support this decision. Not because I’m anti transgender in anyway but because I do honestly believe that u know a lot more at 18 than u did in 11. We as humans have to learn and experience many things to help us make reasonable decisions and shape who we are. I am not my teen self. I am a completely different person. We don’t know our bodies as a child and there are so many changes that we have to accept. When we fall in love it’s very unlikely to be at a pre teen age.
I’m not saying they my opinion is right but it’s mine. I’ve had sexual identity crises like most and if offered puberty blockers I’d say as a 10 year old I’d have took them but i am not that child and I’m glad I am me. There will always be a but or what if. We only ever know the answer to the decisions we make and I think we need time to learn how live
This doesn’t change much.
It’ll be exactly the same as before, trans folks with money and support will access these medicines through alternative means and live their best lives. The poor ones will do what the poor have always done, and suffer. The pearl clutches will get to feel righteous and pious for a few weeks until the next imaginary boogie man has them polluting their britches.
I know a lad who didn’t go through puberty. Eventually they gave him something and he went through puberty. He looks like a big baby and he has wide hips and a small chest. Which is why I don’t buy that puberty blockers are reversible.
We should remove all age restrictions for all people groups. Get rid of alcohol minimum age, smoking, gambling , minimum working age and age to drive . These people groups know deep down what they really need and who they really are as people . I for one look forward to a bunch of chain smoking alcoholic 11 year old going to work on the m50 just like me .
Most people commenting here have never met a trans person in their lives.
CMH or NICE do not base medical practice on ideology. This is not a war on trans people or an ideological issue. They are taking the current research and evidence that is out there, analysing it and making informed decisions for best practice based off of that.
Good
So it’s safe enough to use for some children but not for trans kids?
A few years ago everyone just left this stuff up to doctors, seems like we should revert to that again and stop politicians making silly decisions based on a propaganda study
Good news. This is very dangerous medication which can have long term side effects.
Good
Well it’s risk vs benefit.
Unknown risk vs ambiguous benefit.
If my son grows to discover he is gay or trans I’ll support him. However i will not encourage him to take puberty blockers at a period of his life where his hormones are all over the shop and his brain hasn’t fully developed. What the fuck is wrong with people? It’s not an anti-trans stance to not want their children to take life altering drugs.
the lobby that pushes for this medication on children is so fucking bizarre.
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A sad case of politicians making political decisions about medical matters.
Sanity prevailing in the oddest of places
It’s frustrating because most science supports their use for trans children but ideologues who won’t even spend the time to speak to these children and their parents are forcing their opinions on these children.
We need to remember that Trans Children become Trans Adults, neglecting these children and dismissing their identity because fabricated media panic about a tiny section of society will only foster resentment and harm.
Massively relieved by this news.
Contrary to popular assumption, puberty blockers are not reversible. They cause irreparable harm, which is why they’re being discontinued for this purpose.
Please, if you haven’t already, look up the Cass report. It’s why the Tavistock clinic got shut down. This isn’t about hating on trans folks, it’s about protecting kids.
TLDR: osteoporosis, sterility, negative affect on cognitive function, child loses all potential for sexual function, deeply questionable application of informed consent legislation.
Is this actually a controversial thing?
Or is it just a controversial decision on reddit. I’d imagine most people approve of this (outside reddit)
Common sense prevails. The mods will lock this post soon because it doesn’t suit their politics.
How many people does this actually affect? It seems like a massively overblown issue.
Didn’t the HSE find that there’s like 3 minors in the Republic making use of blockers? Surely couldn’t be much higher in NI.
I see it as politics infecting healthcare which makes me feel uneasy.
Good, finally some common sense
I personally agree with this one.
I think it’s too big a decision to be left up to children to decide. They should have to wait until they’re 18 to make an informed decision for themselves with how they’d like to proceed.
Even if 95% of them continue to have the same thoughts once they reach adulthood, it’s probably best to play it safe until you can be 100% sure they understand the weight of decisions like this.
Just having parental consent seems a bit iffy to me as well, because while a parent might be able to make very educated decisions on certain aspects of their child’s health, gender identity is such a personal and internal issue that I don’t think any parent can understand it well enough to make decisions on it either.
is it bad I don’t really know how to feel about this?.
Really disappointing. If puberty blockers were really as “dangerous” and “irreversible” as some claim them to be, they’d be banned for cis kids going through precocious puberty, but they’re still allowed to get them.
People should be allowed do what they want with their bodies, but only when they’re adults. That shouldn’t be a contentious issue at all imo. I would argue for 21+ even.
There isn’t a 30+ yo on earth who is the same person as they were at 14-21. If you mature and still want to transition then it should be safely accessible for sure
If I brought my 10 year old to get a tattoo I’d be arrested. But the same logic doesn’t apply to much more severe consequences for some reason.
Good riddance we should do the same
Fuckin tans
Sinn Fein UK and Sinn Fein Ireland once again differ on policy
I support this decision. Not because I’m anti transgender in anyway but because I do honestly believe that u know a lot more at 18 than u did in 11. We as humans have to learn and experience many things to help us make reasonable decisions and shape who we are. I am not my teen self. I am a completely different person. We don’t know our bodies as a child and there are so many changes that we have to accept. When we fall in love it’s very unlikely to be at a pre teen age.
I’m not saying they my opinion is right but it’s mine. I’ve had sexual identity crises like most and if offered puberty blockers I’d say as a 10 year old I’d have took them but i am not that child and I’m glad I am me. There will always be a but or what if. We only ever know the answer to the decisions we make and I think we need time to learn how live
This doesn’t change much.
It’ll be exactly the same as before, trans folks with money and support will access these medicines through alternative means and live their best lives. The poor ones will do what the poor have always done, and suffer. The pearl clutches will get to feel righteous and pious for a few weeks until the next imaginary boogie man has them polluting their britches.
I know a lad who didn’t go through puberty. Eventually they gave him something and he went through puberty. He looks like a big baby and he has wide hips and a small chest. Which is why I don’t buy that puberty blockers are reversible.
We should remove all age restrictions for all people groups. Get rid of alcohol minimum age, smoking, gambling , minimum working age and age to drive . These people groups know deep down what they really need and who they really are as people . I for one look forward to a bunch of chain smoking alcoholic 11 year old going to work on the m50 just like me .
Most people commenting here have never met a trans person in their lives.
CMH or NICE do not base medical practice on ideology. This is not a war on trans people or an ideological issue. They are taking the current research and evidence that is out there, analysing it and making informed decisions for best practice based off of that.
Good
So it’s safe enough to use for some children but not for trans kids?
A few years ago everyone just left this stuff up to doctors, seems like we should revert to that again and stop politicians making silly decisions based on a propaganda study
Good news. This is very dangerous medication which can have long term side effects.
Good
Well it’s risk vs benefit.
Unknown risk vs ambiguous benefit.
If my son grows to discover he is gay or trans I’ll support him. However i will not encourage him to take puberty blockers at a period of his life where his hormones are all over the shop and his brain hasn’t fully developed. What the fuck is wrong with people? It’s not an anti-trans stance to not want their children to take life altering drugs.
the lobby that pushes for this medication on children is so fucking bizarre.
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