‘Not everyone is looking to move up the ladder’: Why 42% of workers say they’d turn down a promotion

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1. my manager’s entire daily schedule consists of zoom meetings for 8 hours. sounds fun. /s

2. Jordan Peterson said that the Army had conducted a study, and found out, and this is based on the ASVAB test that 10% of the regular public is so dumb, that if they test shows you are one of these 10% low IQ folks, then the military should exempt you from the draft and not employ you in any fashion at all, as they say the military would have to devote 2 more additional people to undue everything you did, you are so dumb you cannot be given any job at all, and that includes sweeping the floors.

   We know now after the “Mass Hysteria of 2020” that it is more like 30% of the Nation is completely unable to govern their lives, and will ALWAYS, for LIFE, will need the “Helping hand of Govt”. I see these same people all the time here on Reddit.

   As a Fiscal Conservative and being one of those people who was against welfare in general thinking that most of these people were just lazy and dumb, and also thinking this was 10% of the public, I was against it. However, now that Jordan Peterson has proven basically that its cheaper to put these people on UBI vs giving them ANY JOB AT ALL, I now agree with UBI and Welfare.

   I think at a minimum however, we should look at keeping them from having kids so we could breed out the dummies because it does in fact appear that the movie Idiocracy is actually coming true as time goes on. Great movie, proved Jordan Peterson’s case actually that over a long enough time line, the most “prolific” NOT the smartest can outbreed the smartest and eventually take over. Covid really brought that home for me, when I saw Libs line up for an experimental vaccine, and here in Texas no one would dare get in that line, yeh, I saw what Peterson had said right in front of my eyes.

   So if you are pushing for UBI, you now have all the proof you need that we must do this, because if we employ these people otherwise, then I have to stop doing what I am doing to go “sweep the floors” again because they cannot even do that correctly.

3. I always took the promotions.

   Even if it was barely worth the pay. I’d put the experience on my resume and start job shopping within 6 months and get my raise by job hopping.

   I now make (depending on the year) 5-7x my starting salary 15 years ago when I entered my industry

4. Real answer: Most promotions come with more work and responsibility but little or no pay increase.

5. More hours and responsibility for little to no pay increase.

6. Ask a million customer service workers if they want to manage customer service workers for a dollar raise and assume as if people are happy when they say no.

7. Here’s the thing.

   Most people don’t have a psychotic obsession with hoarding wealth. Most people, just want to be able to do a job, for 35 to 40 hours a week, do some honest work for a living, then clock out, and go home to spend time with their family, friends and pets, and have enough time in the week to enjoy socialising and engaging in hobbies.

   Which is normal and healthy. It’s not “lazy” to say “I just want to work for 35 hours a week and then go home and enjoy a comfortable middle class existence”. Lazy is “I don’t want to work at all”.

   Climbing the corporate ladder is what management wants its employees to do, because it wants to create a contest between employees, where everyone competes against each other, working harder and harder, hoping to get a promotion.

   And it is a contest, because if you have a team of employees and they have 1 manager, then there is only 1 promotion available to give. There is only 1 CEO of a corporation too. Not everyone can just ‘work harder’, and get a promotion. Everyone can work harder, and the result is still going to be only a handful of people getting promoted with higher pay because there isn’t enough high ranking jobs available to go around for everyone.

   You could work 5x harder than you usually work, and still lose to someone who worked 6x harder.

   And there’s every chance, if you joined the wrong company, that all that slaving away might be for naught. Because some companies will just use you and abuse you without ever giving you promotions or pay increases, stringing you along with the hope that one day it might pay off.

   Some companies, may give you promotions and pay increases after you slaved away for them for years, only to then go bankrupt, forcing you to start from scratch in another company.

   And the corporate world wants people to believe in stories of “Self made” people who just worked a little harder and suddenly were making millions of dollars a year, because the corporate world wants you to believe if you just put in a little extra, somehow it’ll be all worth it.

   “Yes, you too can be rich and successful if you just stress over every unreasonable deadline thrown at you”.

   Most stories of “self made” successful type people, who started working at a company at the age of 18 and were the CEO by the time they were 27 or whatever, are stories of people who were just plain lucky, or (more likely) stories of people who are lying about how many friends in high places they had to help them get to the top so quickly.

   And the reality is, most of the corporate ladder is actually reserved at the top. It’s reserved, by the people already up there, reserving high ranking jobs for their family or friends. So you can slave all you want to climb the corporate ladder, but eventually you’re going to hit a ceiling unless you kiss the right asses.

   Is it any surprise most people don’t want to live like that, and just want to do 35 to 40 hours of honest work and then go home with a reasonable level of pay, enough to pay for a roof over their heads, a bed to sleep in, some water, electricity, food, and a few simple life pleasures to make them happy, like a subscription to netflix and a TV?

8. Everytime they promoted a fellow employee to a manager position within our department, their personality changed real quick! They were all the manager’s friends and favorites. She told them starting their first day to not put up with any of complaints or bull from us. What a way to train new management. This is exactly why the place was such a hostile work environment with a high turnover rate. They were ugly.

9. I don’t see particular benefit to being a manager, which is the next step “up” for me

   It comes with more responsibility and I gotta answer for my team, meaning I’d have to push them more than I’d like to. When layoffs come, chances are middle managers are gonna get cut fast. I’m a bit afraid of my actual technical skills atrophying, too. All this for slightly more pay

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