AOC Snub Shows How Democrats Refuse to Learn Lessons of 2024

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/aoc-snub-shows-how-democrats-refuse-to-learn-lessons-of-2024

49 comments

  1. We’re fucking doomed. This proves they simply will not listen.

  2. The gerontocracy that is the democratic party is from the boomer generation. Of course they’re trying to pull the ladder up behind them.

    And look, we can’t blame them for being so out of touch. It’s hard to monitor the pulse of the nation when you’re always monitoring the pulses of your leadership.

  3. Democrats have been refusing to learn the same lessons since 1994.

  4. And 2023.

    And 2022.

    And 2021.

    And 2020.

    And….. (etc.)

  5. They haven’t learned any lessons since 2008 at least. Their propped up corporatist candidate lost that primary, so rather than tell her NO in 2016, they rigged, cheated, and stole the primary for her by any means available, so she could lose the general election to a fascist orange cartoon character.

    Then in 2020 they forced another candidate into the race who had lost even more primaries than that two time loser had. And when he predictably lost the first 5 primaries, things actually looked promising. Until the COVID pandemic effectively cancelled the campaign, and the corporate media pretended the actual frontrunner didn’t exist. Then the corporatist shill from South Carolina did his part and three time loser got a candidacy handed to him on a silver platter, and won in November because the fascist orange cartoon character was literally killing hundreds of thousands of Americans through his willfull incomptence.

    Of course the “average American” has the memory capacity of a fruit fly, due to the corporate media, so the fascist orange cartoon character runs again, despite being a literal convicted felon this time around. Joe can’t do the job again and everybody knows it, but he doesn’t bother to drop out of the campaign until July, so they throw in the candidate who literally had to drop out of the race BEFORE a single vote was cast in the 2020 race, because polling showed she was losing her own state. Badly. And that state’s primary had been moved to nearly the front of the line – specifically for her benefit – instead of it’s usual place at the end of the line in June.

    Even so, her campaign actually started out strong. Made record fundraising. Picked a decent running mate. Was leading in all the polls. And then threw it all away, by kissing the ass of one of the worst mass murdering warmongers in American history. And his daughter’s.

    Anybody who wants her to run again? You need to get your fucking head examined. Same with the Gavin Newsom fans. If there’s still such a thing as a Democratic party or for that matter, a real election in 2028, the candidate should have a lot in common with FDR and little or nothing in common with the cancerous toxic corporate fellation cult which has been a boat anchor on the party since 1992.

  6. We barely beat trump in 2020, that should have been the wakeup call.

    Republicans come up with new ways to steal power every week, meanwhile dems are only now realizing it’s bad to go high when they go low

  7. Not democrats. Democrats leadership. They’re all on the take to blunt/stall real change.

  8. Both the geriocracy and the oligarchs are basically one party.

    Oh and you’re not invited to join btw

  9. People tend to stop learning from their mistakes after age 70 or so.

  10. They didn’t learn from 2016, what do you expect?

    Corporation and bad interpretations of feminism lost ’16 and ’24.

    Then add the fact that old people with nothing else in their lives won’t go out to pasture.

    They’re fucked.

  11. You mean the lesson where they made a bagillion dollars doing what they’ve been doing? Nothing else matters as much as that.

  13. Here we go again. We would be in a much better place of the Democrats would have backed Sanders.

  14. We need to get more people into politics to drive these old geezers out and into the retirement homes. Shouldn’t be too hard. A guy with a bucket on his head won in the uk and we’re better than them

  15. I’m pretty sure they know exactly what they are doing. They are going to benefit from the Republicans cutting taxes while they get to play victim and help corral the left and keep them in check.

  16. AOC literally proved this election that she can bring Trump voters back over to the Democratic Party, that the democrats can win voters back by being consistent with progressive values.

    The democratic old guard would rather lose with Kamala than win with Bernie or AOC.

  19. AOC and other progressives need to form a coalition again dems.

  20. Saying Democrat leadership haven’t learned this lesson at this point is akin to the media saying they dont know the motive of Luigi’s act. It’s complete bullshit. Democrat voters can recognize sabotaging and stealing from the working class at the hands of Democrats like a Republican voter can recognize a fascist conman. Stop talking politics and talk like fuckin adults. For fuck sake.  

  22. Excellent article. Can only get better if you admit you failed, learn hard lessons, and try new things to do better next time. Old Dem Leadership has no interest in this. Time for them to go.

  23. It’s not their intention to win, their intention is to be martyrs so we keep donating to them endlessly. They don’t give a a shit about us.

  24. This is why I can’t stand either side. They’ve all become corrupt. What happened to the time when people entered into these government offices as a duty to our country and Americans, as opposed to a path to wealth?

  25. And they have the gall to expect Progressives and Independents to vote for their anointed ones

  26. Nancy Pelosi (84) is only 7 years younger than the Golden Gate Bridge (91).

  27. Democrats do what the DNC tells them.

    The DNC does what the 1% donors tell them.

    I think the Democrats have learned their lesson since 2016…

  28. These “relics,” that still run things in the Democratic Party are ALSO part of the problem. Their pockets are stuffed with dirty money as well. Step aside & let some new blood succeed where you have failed us.

  29. Wait so what happened? I haven’t been following the news.

  30. If you want to actually accomplish left wing things in America like universal healthcare and living wages, please get this through your head now:

    The Democratic Party hates you, and they hate you way way more than they hate Republicans.

    The Democratic Party will fight you and impede you and try to stop you from doing good things. They are not your ally. They do not represent you. They will lie to you to get your vote and then entrench the status quo.

    If you are left-wing, leave the Democratic Party. Organize and support actual left-wing movements both locally and nationally.

    It is unconscionable to continue to give our vote, our only political power as an everyday American, to people who intentionally and repeatedly choose not to do what is necessary or good.

  31. Establishment Dems will be under threat from her. She takes the job serious, isn’t totally bought and paid for yet, and Nancy is a petty political creature and just wanted to show her power. I’m sure a guy actually dying from cancer who is old as fuck will be really on top oversight lol. It’s a cruel joke. Nancy is one of those demons Q anon crows about lol.

  32. can we the progressives have our own party ? and let the DEM party die?

  34. This 70 year old is sick of all these old people stopping progress! Pelosi needs to go. Time for millennials to take over!

  35. They’ll refuse to pass the torch down to the new generation and cling on to power as long as they can because it’s profitable. That’s one thing everyone has in common regardless of political party.

  39. Not a snub. She’s simply a weak candidate for the position. In every substantive dimension.

  41. The Democratic Party died the day they nominated Hillary instead of Bernie in my humble opinion.

  42. And this is why I unregistered myself from the Democratic Party.

  44. WAKE UP. It’s rich vs poor. It’s so obvious now

  45. AOC should band together with other *actual* *real* progressives and start a new party for working Americans and families, centered around health care, environmental and economic justice, and building strong unions. The corporatist, greedy ass, DNC can’t prove any more effectively that the democratic party is not interested in representing the interests of working voters, and is invested instead in advancing the wishes of the elite, ruling class. Additionally, a party doesn’t lose as reliably and in such devastating fashion as the democrats do by merely being dysfunctional and/or disorganized. The democrats lose every time on every issue worth a damn because that’s what they’re designed to do. American voters need a real option that will be responsive and effective addressing the issues the 99% of us care deeply about, especially as we hurdle into the second coming of the Guilded Age with musk’s recent purchase of the presidency.

  46. The old guard will not go silently into the night. I’ll certainly not vote for Pelosi again.

  48. AOC is gonna have the same issues that Bernie has and had.

    Actually, Bernie might’ve had an easier time of it, because Male. But!

    Support is the Progressives biggest issues. Not just support from replace some more moderate dems, but support earned from flipped races. Actually, any supoort.

    It feels like the Progressives are putting all their weight on AOC to do it all.

    When it needs to them getting her the tools needed for her to do the work.

    Power.

    Power comes from control.

    Control comes from position.

    Position comes from the vote.

    Progressives gaining more seats, with uprooting Republican seats as double, is the answer.

  49. I love AOC but the lesson of 2024 is that too far left isn’t working.

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