NATO released a list of 12 crucial raw materials. Without them, there can be no defense. Kyiv is rich in these raw materials. Accepting the Kremlin’s land grab in some deal is not just immoral, but puts everyone at risk. It would bolster the axis of authoritarianism world wide

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1. [source](https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_231765.htm)

   Timing is interesting. A message by Rutte to the Trump team? Trump seems obsessed with peace for the sake of peace, like we have to stop a fight between two children in the schoolyard or something. Totally ignoring the geopolitical angle.

   Kick Russia out of Ukraine!

2. And EU lacks deposits for most of these – or they are hard to extract. Majority has to be imported.

3. The first point for helping Ukraine is that it is the moral thing to do. They are beeing attacked by their fascist neighbours.

   But Ukraine is also one of the greatest producers of grain in Europe. To let Russia get hold of that is very dangerous.

   They already used the grain they stole from Ukraine to prop of Dictarors around the world

4. That lays a fundament for decent national weaponry industry in the future!

5. I respect the con but just because you can find some Cobalt in Ukraine doesn’t mean Ukraine is rich in Cobalt to the point that it somehow suddenly becomes a strategic region.

   After some casual Googling it seems the only rare metal Ukraine provides to the EU is Gallium, and even that is dwarfed by Germany, not to mention imports as a whole.

6. I see pixels are also at risk. Holy fuck.

7. it would be nice if it was readable but oh well

8. Too bad with already ran out of image definition. Had to downvote due to how artifacted and blurry the image is.

   Unfortunately, even the PDF has terrible image quality. Had do swim upwards towards the original source to find a [legible version](https://hcss.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Strategic-Raw-Materials-for-Defence-HCSS-2023-V2.pdf). It’s also almost 2 years old.

9. Does Kyiv also have the pixels?

10. I see jack shit in this blurry ass image

11. You know they have it before ? In the cold war.

    How they do it then we will do it and now.

12. Ahh the good old “let’s support Ukraine because we can exploit their natural resources after the war” argument. Very European and democratic.

13. For anyone that actually wants to read words, here’s a version with more than 20 pixels: [https://i.imgur.com/GSmnJiG.png](https://i.imgur.com/GSmnJiG.png)

14. The image is illegible.

15. Blz

16. All I see is pixelated text

17. At least 15 more pixels please – at least

18. Ah yes, now I can build my own fighter jet.

19. What is this, a graph for ants!?

20. Too bad no one can read it.

21. Funny that at least 138 people upvoted it, without even be able to see anything in this pixel salad.

22. I squinted until I closed my eyes. Fell asleep. Woke up and tried to read this again. Fell asleep.

23. Did you screenshot this with a potato?

24. Fighter Aircraft:

    🟥 Very high risk: Aluminium, Graphite

    🟧 High risk:

    * Beryllium, Chromium, Cobalt
    * Copper, Dysprosium, Germanium
    * Iron/Steel, Lanthanum, Nickel
    * Neodymium, Platinum, Praesodymium
    * Samarium, Tantalum, Titanium
    * Tellurium, Terbium, Tungsten
    * Vanadium, Yttrium

    🟨 Medium risk:

    * Barium, Borates, Cadmium
    * Gallium, Indium, Lead
    * Lithium, Manganese, Molybdenum
    * Niobium, Silver, Tin
    * Thorium, Zinc, Zirconium

    🟩 Low Risk: Gold, Hafnium, Selenium

25. Is that why the EU and NATO were hell-bent to drag Ukraine into its sphere of influence, no matter the consequences that so many warned about?

26. Europe basically needs to get jacked again and find a way to secure materials and supply chains.

27. A higher resolution: [https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/7/pdf/240712-Factsheet-Defence-Supply-Chain-Ro.pdf](https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/7/pdf/240712-Factsheet-Defence-Supply-Chain-Ro.pdf)

    And I believe the solution to our problems is to build a Main Battle Submarine Aircraft purely from Hafnium.

28. Wait! So we need to secure Ukraine in order to command and extract raw materials for our security?

    Why couldn’t they say this from the beginning? Instead of spinning some moral bullshit yarn.

29. Then I wonder how did the West managed to produce hi-tech stuff during Cold War when Ukraine and Eastern Europe was not aligned with the axis of good/freedom/mcdonalds.

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