The pressure hospital staff are under is shocking. With staff shortages, sickness and abusive patients this is only going to get worse. It wont be surprising to see death rates and medical mistakes rise while at the same time being underfunded and over worked. The system is broken.
I hate these kind of articles. They may be right, and I don’t blame NHS staff for wanting to leave.
But if its 400 a week now , what did the turnover use to be. How many are employed a week?
There are 1.3 million people employed in the NHS I think. A very low turnover would be 1% which would be 13000 a year which is 250 a week? Is my maths correct? So is a turnover of less than 2% high or is it low? Who knows. Apparently a few years ago retention rates were 84 (edit) % in the public sector so 6 % leaving annually?
Again obviously this may be still too high and we want want retain staff. And work conditions must have been pretty awful for along time now.
If only the NHS didn’t have a budget issue they could hire more staff to help cover the amount of work the current staff are facing but no we have a government that hates one the the greatest ideas any one has ever had a revolution to health care
Workload for us has gone up by up to 100% at times. Managers want us to work longer but that will just lead to more burnout and more people will leave to do something else. I am already looking for new jobs because I cannot work any harder and I am not going to do better by being tired on top of that. My managers’ managers do not care and neither do the hospital governors, they think everything is fine from their gilded cages, they would not last a week if they had to do our job.
I work in the NHS (non-clinical, IT) and last week we had less than 50% of the staff resources we should have. It’s usually around 70% and has been for at least a year.
Getting sick of it now. We’re struggling to recruit because the pay offered I reckon is shit for the job description and responsibilities they’ve put out.
About hospital staff facing abuse, can I just say that long waiting times to be seen or admitted when you actually go to hospital, affects patient stress levels. If abuse is increasing I’d imagine it may have something to do with the far higher number of people waiting much longer for treatment – your perception of a hospital as a place of safety changes the longer you wait.
Waits of between 4-12 hours are not out of the ordinary. In dec 2021 alone, 13,000 people waited over 12 hours from the time a decision was made to admit them to a ward, to the time they were actually admitted. Waits of over 12 hours at a&e aren’t required to be recorded, so we simply don’t know how many of those there are. The Nuffield Trust says ‘the number of long (over 12 hour) waits (in a&e) could be far greater than the number of trolley waits’.
In 2011, the number of people waiting 4 – 12 hours in hospitals was zero. It’s now over 21%. Long waits in hospitals resulted in over 4,500 deaths last year. The Tory govt is running the NHS into the ground – and everyone’s stress levels are rising as a result.
I think the NHS is in a crisis, and has been for a while now. Not everyone’s aware of this but wait till they actually need to use the NHS. Someone I know had an injury about four years ago. Back injury. Prolapsed disc. Can’t walk or sit up without pain, so they’ve spent most of their time on the sofa, sleeping there, urinating into a jug, unable to shower – not a nice life. They are currently waiting to speak to a consultant, two years or three years so far. Just to speak to a consultant, not even a date given at the moment. Just to speak to a consultant! Not even surgery. The NHS is not working and people are dying because of its dysfunctionality. I do not blame the employees at all, it’s a difficult job.
Doesn’t help that they scrapped free degrees for nurses. Also I don’t know if you guys think this is fair, but my sister got dropped from her university nursing degree for making a Tik Tok on how hard stressful nursing can be in the NHS. Apparently it was unacceptable to make video like that since it would dissuade more people from signing up…
Shit pay, no support, crap hours, NI hikes, cost of living. I could go on……..
The NHS is in crisis mode, claiming it’s not is a delusional take.
My girlfriend is a band 2 healthcare assistant who has worked in hospitals and care homes during the pandemic. She does long hours and her wards are often understaffed. This week alone, she’s worked 73 hours with minimal downtime. It’s had a detrimental impact on her physical health.
On top of this, my father has also had problems with the healthcare system. He was urged to attend hospital a few months back because his doctor found high levels of potassium in his blood and he had to wait nearly 10 hours to be seen by a consultant. On top of that, he needs a hip replacement and has been put on a year-long waiting list for surgery.
Then there’s the people I know who have suffered mentally over the last few years. One friend was on a several year long waiting list for talking therapy and was only bumped up the list because he tried to end his own life.
Losing 60% of my nursing staff this month alone. Not surprised at this point.
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The pressure hospital staff are under is shocking. With staff shortages, sickness and abusive patients this is only going to get worse. It wont be surprising to see death rates and medical mistakes rise while at the same time being underfunded and over worked. The system is broken.
I hate these kind of articles. They may be right, and I don’t blame NHS staff for wanting to leave.
But if its 400 a week now , what did the turnover use to be. How many are employed a week?
There are 1.3 million people employed in the NHS I think. A very low turnover would be 1% which would be 13000 a year which is 250 a week? Is my maths correct? So is a turnover of less than 2% high or is it low? Who knows. Apparently a few years ago retention rates were 84 (edit) % in the public sector so 6 % leaving annually?
Again obviously this may be still too high and we want want retain staff. And work conditions must have been pretty awful for along time now.
If only the NHS didn’t have a budget issue they could hire more staff to help cover the amount of work the current staff are facing but no we have a government that hates one the the greatest ideas any one has ever had a revolution to health care
Workload for us has gone up by up to 100% at times. Managers want us to work longer but that will just lead to more burnout and more people will leave to do something else. I am already looking for new jobs because I cannot work any harder and I am not going to do better by being tired on top of that. My managers’ managers do not care and neither do the hospital governors, they think everything is fine from their gilded cages, they would not last a week if they had to do our job.
I work in the NHS (non-clinical, IT) and last week we had less than 50% of the staff resources we should have. It’s usually around 70% and has been for at least a year.
Getting sick of it now. We’re struggling to recruit because the pay offered I reckon is shit for the job description and responsibilities they’ve put out.
About hospital staff facing abuse, can I just say that long waiting times to be seen or admitted when you actually go to hospital, affects patient stress levels. If abuse is increasing I’d imagine it may have something to do with the far higher number of people waiting much longer for treatment – your perception of a hospital as a place of safety changes the longer you wait.
Waits of between 4-12 hours are not out of the ordinary. In dec 2021 alone, 13,000 people waited over 12 hours from the time a decision was made to admit them to a ward, to the time they were actually admitted. Waits of over 12 hours at a&e aren’t required to be recorded, so we simply don’t know how many of those there are. The Nuffield Trust says ‘the number of long (over 12 hour) waits (in a&e) could be far greater than the number of trolley waits’.
In 2011, the number of people waiting 4 – 12 hours in hospitals was zero. It’s now over 21%. Long waits in hospitals resulted in over 4,500 deaths last year. The Tory govt is running the NHS into the ground – and everyone’s stress levels are rising as a result.
I think the NHS is in a crisis, and has been for a while now. Not everyone’s aware of this but wait till they actually need to use the NHS. Someone I know had an injury about four years ago. Back injury. Prolapsed disc. Can’t walk or sit up without pain, so they’ve spent most of their time on the sofa, sleeping there, urinating into a jug, unable to shower – not a nice life. They are currently waiting to speak to a consultant, two years or three years so far. Just to speak to a consultant, not even a date given at the moment. Just to speak to a consultant! Not even surgery. The NHS is not working and people are dying because of its dysfunctionality. I do not blame the employees at all, it’s a difficult job.
Doesn’t help that they scrapped free degrees for nurses. Also I don’t know if you guys think this is fair, but my sister got dropped from her university nursing degree for making a Tik Tok on how hard stressful nursing can be in the NHS. Apparently it was unacceptable to make video like that since it would dissuade more people from signing up…
Shit pay, no support, crap hours, NI hikes, cost of living. I could go on……..
The NHS is in crisis mode, claiming it’s not is a delusional take.
My girlfriend is a band 2 healthcare assistant who has worked in hospitals and care homes during the pandemic. She does long hours and her wards are often understaffed. This week alone, she’s worked 73 hours with minimal downtime. It’s had a detrimental impact on her physical health.
On top of this, my father has also had problems with the healthcare system. He was urged to attend hospital a few months back because his doctor found high levels of potassium in his blood and he had to wait nearly 10 hours to be seen by a consultant. On top of that, he needs a hip replacement and has been put on a year-long waiting list for surgery.
Then there’s the people I know who have suffered mentally over the last few years. One friend was on a several year long waiting list for talking therapy and was only bumped up the list because he tried to end his own life.
Losing 60% of my nursing staff this month alone. Not surprised at this point.