Of course they should. Their punishment has to come from somewhere and it won’t be the legal system.
Absolutely. These children are horrific at times. They should also introduce fines for these kids parents. See how they like missing another bottle of buck coz wee timmy is on the bus abusing grannies again.
In the 1974 sci-fi novel “The Forever War” by Joe Haldeman (it’s a good read tbh, and serves as an interesting contrast to “Starship Troopers” by Robert Heinlein), there’s a bit about youth crime during one of the return visits to Earth by the protagonist, several decades after he left.
In it, one of the social problems was in the large apartment buildings of the imagined future Earth, there were youths that rode up and down on the buildings elevators all day, waiting for isolated older people to enter the elevator, whereupon the youth would assault the older person and steal their money and other possessions.
The whole youth bus passes and criminal behaviour thing reminds me of this. I’m not sure if it’s a thing here yet or not, but I can envision a situation in which young criminals ride the bus all day and look for isolated pensioners to mug. Especially at night.
A real “Torment Nexus” moment, if you know the meme.
I think this scheme really ought to have been part of a out-of-school skills training program sort of like an apprenticeship but less obligation/more voluntary.
Unfortunately seems likely it will just end up being removed entirely.
It is being worked on, it was also recently voted on in Parliament.
>”We are developing a behaviour code with the intention it will cover all concessionary bus passengers.”
>The minister went on to say that concessionary bus passengers may have to sign a code of conduct in order to receive their pass.
>She added: “We are examining the legal means to suspend concessionary passes for persistent anti-social behaviour of anyone of any age, as announced last December.”
The SNP think 25 is the age of culpability, so fat chance.
It’s insane that no thought was given to this when this was introduced to be honest.
And sorry but I have zero time here for the SNP’s message here that “Youth anti-social behaviour is a cry for help from young people”. That’s just total bullshit.
Most young hate the anti-social behaviour just as much as everyone else does. Those smashing window and attacking drivers are not crying for help – they’re just being absolute shits.
They should be in a young offenders institution. Where the freepass is irrelevant.
I have no problem with removal of the pass for trouble makers as long as it is transparent process and not just drivers taking them without evidence.
How would it be policed or actioned, surly can’t be on the bus drivers word alone?
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Of course they should. Their punishment has to come from somewhere and it won’t be the legal system.
Absolutely. These children are horrific at times. They should also introduce fines for these kids parents. See how they like missing another bottle of buck coz wee timmy is on the bus abusing grannies again.
In the 1974 sci-fi novel “The Forever War” by Joe Haldeman (it’s a good read tbh, and serves as an interesting contrast to “Starship Troopers” by Robert Heinlein), there’s a bit about youth crime during one of the return visits to Earth by the protagonist, several decades after he left.
In it, one of the social problems was in the large apartment buildings of the imagined future Earth, there were youths that rode up and down on the buildings elevators all day, waiting for isolated older people to enter the elevator, whereupon the youth would assault the older person and steal their money and other possessions.
The whole youth bus passes and criminal behaviour thing reminds me of this. I’m not sure if it’s a thing here yet or not, but I can envision a situation in which young criminals ride the bus all day and look for isolated pensioners to mug. Especially at night.
A real “Torment Nexus” moment, if you know the meme.
I think this scheme really ought to have been part of a out-of-school skills training program sort of like an apprenticeship but less obligation/more voluntary.
Unfortunately seems likely it will just end up being removed entirely.
It is being worked on, it was also recently voted on in Parliament.
[Transport Minister backs proposal to strip free bus passes from anti-social passengers](https://news.stv.tv/scotland/minister-backs-proposal-to-strip-free-bus-passes-from-anti-social-passengers)
>”We are developing a behaviour code with the intention it will cover all concessionary bus passengers.”
>The minister went on to say that concessionary bus passengers may have to sign a code of conduct in order to receive their pass.
>She added: “We are examining the legal means to suspend concessionary passes for persistent anti-social behaviour of anyone of any age, as announced last December.”
The SNP think 25 is the age of culpability, so fat chance.
It’s insane that no thought was given to this when this was introduced to be honest.
And sorry but I have zero time here for the SNP’s message here that “Youth anti-social behaviour is a cry for help from young people”. That’s just total bullshit.
Most young hate the anti-social behaviour just as much as everyone else does. Those smashing window and attacking drivers are not crying for help – they’re just being absolute shits.
They should be in a young offenders institution. Where the freepass is irrelevant.
I have no problem with removal of the pass for trouble makers as long as it is transparent process and not just drivers taking them without evidence.
How would it be policed or actioned, surly can’t be on the bus drivers word alone?
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