The mystery is not why we Irish have responded to Israel’s barbarism. It’s why others have not

by chuckleberryfinnable

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  2. Not really a mistery. Ireland literally jumped the gun, spread all the false dead numbers published before any independent review, accused israel of the hospital attack (that was proved to have been a hamas missile) and literally decided to jump on the whole genocide case while staying really quiet in other cases.

    Ireland literally partnered with Russia, Iran and other major regular human right ofenders on this one and the people I spoke here generally believe that israel as a country should not exist.

    Ireland is often very quiet about other barbarisms, including terror strikes and terrorist bases in Irish peacekeepers zones….

  3. Because Ireland is compromised and the Irish can’t be rational about the middle east

    The reason that others have not is because they profoundly disagree with you on this

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  4. It’s often forgotten here but Ireland is one of only a few countries in Europe who didn’t play a direct role in the holocaust and didn’t commit pogroms against the Jews. As such we discuss Israel without any kind of guilt for past actions. What’s happening in Gaza right now is objectively a war crime and ethnic cleansing at the very least. In the next few years we will learn of a lot more atrocities in Gaza that are yet to be reported.

    When that happens (and it will), we will be able to say that we didn’t enable or support it, unlike most others European countries right now.

  5. Funny how a lot of the comments on recent posts mentioning Israel in r/Ireland are coming from accounts that haven’t really commented here before.

  6. Because Ireland has little geopolitical relevance or interests in the Middle East so realpolitik does not apply to them. The major western powers all have an interest in seeing Israel succeed because there’s a huge geopolitical Cold War going on between the west and Russia, Iran and China and the conflict in the Middle East is a proxy of that. What interesting is why Irish diplomacy is so sloppy and obvious with regard to the conflict, you can criticise Israel but to me Ireland goes way beyond that, at this point it’s a ingrained opposition to Israel on all levels.

  9. I don’t understand how you can *not* be opposed to children being blown up. How people are defending the Israeli government is beyond me. How can they look at the pictures of newborns struggling and feel…. Nothing? Saying it’s just defending itself. This is another massive 21st century stain and I can’t believe people are ok with this? Sick, sick world

    ETA: looked up some stats and Jesus it’s harrowing, 44% of deaths are children, youngest was a day old.

  10. They seemed to have quite successfully shifted attention away from what’s happening on the ground to people arguing the nuances of international law or that ireland is magically a hot bed of anti-Semites

    I can understand why people hear want to defend ireland from mostly bacesles claims. But I cant help but feel like this is taking attention from humanitarian disaster on going in Gaza

    Simon Harris summed it up quite well

  11. The bit that I’m noticing is that plenty of others are responding, and in a very human rights focus way. They’re just not being listed to or are being shut down by a rather spineless era of centrist (don’t rock the boat) media and large aspect of a political class that’s just rather useless and afraid to call it out.

    I notice the media coverage also seems to be gradually becoming more directly critical of policy.

    I actually think they went too far in that embassy move and have crossed a line into the blatantly ridiculous. It’s a bit like attempting to deck Lisa Simpson or something. You aren’t going to come out of that looking good.

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