Ah, here’s Piers to be reductive as if it’s a *gotcha*.
‘Eat less, do more exercise’ just isn’t useful beyond a certain point, there is more to it.
**ETA**: Since it need be explained here in the year of our lord 2024, a simple five word slogan you can bark at anyone with more of a chin than you like is not particularly useful advice. Everyone *knows* that if you take less in and exercise, you will lose weight. Everyone knows that. Some people may need reminding, granted, but everyone knows.
If you want to actually help someone rather than merely shame them as if it’s easy à la Piers here, then help them to not only eat *less* but to also eat *better*. Help them find healthier replacements for food they already like, help them to moderate, help them to turn treats into a manageable routine, help them find exercises they enjoy doing, help them deal with the shame of potentially going to the gym for the first time or going out on a run.
What you take in matters, eating unhealthier foods in less amounts weighs heavier on your heart than healthier food in more amounts even if the caloric deficit mathematically remains the same. This is one way in which ‘eat less’ is reductive, because this will reduce your ability to effectively exercise.
Hell, many fat people aren’t merely fat just because they eat too much (though yes, that will always be the raw mechanics in the body of it unless they’ve another condition causing it) but because of more deep mental health issues that need to be solved by the counsellers and therapists there’s a 12-month wait for in this country (fund mental health, you fuckers). For many people, food is a necessary comfort from terrors they should not be facing in the first place.
And as a final note, in this country more than a lot of Europe (which is generally less obese, by the by), the inherent politics of food is incredibly weighted against the working class who generally have less access to fresh, affordable food that is healthy and unprocessed than those that are wealthier. Notably, the working class also tends to be fatter. A lot of working people get by on processed dinners that go into the oven on 180 degrees for 20 minutes, after all, because it’s cheap and it’s easy at the end of a long day.
There you are, ways in which weight loss is more complicated than ‘eat less, exercise more’. Yes, being in caloric deficit is how you lose weight on a mechanical level but if I told a heroin addict to ‘just stop using heroin’, you’d tell me it was complex than that – and you’d be right. It is here too.
*And before anyone claims otherwise, no I am not obese but I’ve helped family members to lose weight. Be compassionate, please; it’s a really vulnerable place for a person to be. Calling their desire to know more ‘fat noises’ as OP is done leads you nowhere. If this is your mindset, please say nothing: you are so harmful.*
Very complex issues cannot be reduced to simple slogans like that. There are an incredible amount of factors to consider when it comes to weight loss. Including economic, social, mental health, disability and physical health to name just a few. While what he says isn’t technically wrong, it’s definitely reductive
Piers Morgan doesn’t understand the conversation, what an absolute shock.
It’s like saying the answer to world peace is “just don’t have wars”- maybe not technically *incorrect* but you’d have to be a true imbecile to think it’s helpful or the end of the conversation
The thing is with losing weight, it can be tough to find an enjoyable diet. In theory it’s easy, just eat right and exercise frequently. Willpower is the hardest part and you gotta find healthy food you enjoy, else you’ll crave the bad stuff even more which makes it even harder.
He’s acting like he isn’t fat too
One has to admire how Piers Moron can have both no chin and a double chin simultaneously, and still lecture other people on health and fitness.
As much of a Doctor as Dr Oz is
It doesn’t even have to be very much exercise. 99% just eat less food
….. You know, watching this and thinking about it, what is a turn off about it is actually that he interrupted the lady who was being interviewed and then the interview was completely derailed. He was so dismissive and rude, but he also didn’t give a damn at all about the program guest who was being interviewed. Knobhead.
Basic truth . This basic truth does not mean English fella is qualifed in sports science or any other matter.
I hate agreeing with piers Morgan
Piers Morgan is an arrogant twat but he isn’t wrong on this one
To be fair he’s right.
Less kalories in is the only way. U can workout for 8 hours but if u eat 10k kcal u still get fat
So he’s mostly right but no 100%.
So, to lose weight, you need to be burning more than you are taking in or a calorie deficit.This can be done by reducing calories, exercising more, or doing both.
But eating less isn’t really correct as if you swap salad for a chocolate bar that may be less in weight but more in calories.
Also, some people’s bodies hold more than others do, so the deficit needs to be greater before you start to lose anything.
Then, there’s the sustainability of the method. Most diets are terrible for having unstable methods, so people are guaranteed to fail. So, finding something that you can keep at is VERY important as this can be the deciding factor for a lot of people’s weight loss journeys.
If I went on a talk show as a guest to be interviewed and I was interrupted, I’d walk out. Especially if I hadn’t finished a full sentence yet. He clearly doesn’t respect other peoples opinions and shouldn’t be hosting a talk show.
Higher insulin in the blood is what makes you fat, NOT calories.
In a randomized controlled trial, two different test groups had some amazing differences. The groups were isocaloric meaning all participants in any group had exactly the same amount of calories. The only difference is between the groups were 1 L of liquid. The test groups of interest were water versus artificially sweetened soda. After six months the group that drink the water lost 2 kg, but the group that consumed the diet/sugar-free soda, which had a caloric load of zero, GAINED 2 kg. So after six months, there was a 4 kg difference between the two groups, despite the fact that they ate exactly the same amount of calories, in the same macro nutrient proportion. Considering the water and the diet soda have the same amount of calories, the calories-in calories-out logic would dictate that the groups should’ve had identical results. The reason they did not have identical results is because hormones are critical in the determination of how we store, body fat. These sugar-free diet, sodas, while having no calories, still upregulate insulin. Insulin slows fat loss down, and this is why nutrition planning that focuses on fats and proteins, while keeping carbohydrates to the minimum, have outcomes more associated with lower body fat. does the amount of food you eat still matter? Of course it does, but the simpleton‘s view of just reducing calories, is an oversimplification, and oversimplification is another word for wrong.
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Maersk, M., Belza, A., Stødkilde-Jørgensen, H., Ringgaard, S., Chabanova, E., Thomsen, H., … & Richelsen, B. (2012). Sucrose-sweetened beverages increase fat storage in the liver, muscle, and visceral fat depot: a 6-mo randomized intervention study. The American journal of clinical nutrition, 95(2), 283-289.
Agreeing with Piers Morgan first thing in the morning. My day is ruined.
Eating less absolutely works, but it can be like telling a drug addict “have you tried doing less heroin?”.
If you are genuinely addicted to eating it’s really hard because, unlike drugs, you actually need food to live. You can’t go cold turkey. For many it’s a psychological problem and should be treated as such in those cases.
To lose weight you eat less. To gain muscle you workout. Very simple.
People are kicking off like he’s wrong, but I’m yet to see a fat person die of starvation.
People just throw excuses at stuff as a substitute rather than taking it on board and doing something about it.
It’s definitely not easy, but it’s not impossible.
Fat noises 😂😂
Technically, she ain’t wrong. You will lose SOME weight doing that. The amount varies from person to person, depending on one’s eating habits. Someone who mainly eats sugar based foods would lose more than some who eats mainly fast foods, since fast foods do contain some fats that can’t be broken down naturally.
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Effective=/= Comfortable
Ah, here’s Piers to be reductive as if it’s a *gotcha*.
‘Eat less, do more exercise’ just isn’t useful beyond a certain point, there is more to it.
**ETA**: Since it need be explained here in the year of our lord 2024, a simple five word slogan you can bark at anyone with more of a chin than you like is not particularly useful advice. Everyone *knows* that if you take less in and exercise, you will lose weight. Everyone knows that. Some people may need reminding, granted, but everyone knows.
If you want to actually help someone rather than merely shame them as if it’s easy à la Piers here, then help them to not only eat *less* but to also eat *better*. Help them find healthier replacements for food they already like, help them to moderate, help them to turn treats into a manageable routine, help them find exercises they enjoy doing, help them deal with the shame of potentially going to the gym for the first time or going out on a run.
What you take in matters, eating unhealthier foods in less amounts weighs heavier on your heart than healthier food in more amounts even if the caloric deficit mathematically remains the same. This is one way in which ‘eat less’ is reductive, because this will reduce your ability to effectively exercise.
Hell, many fat people aren’t merely fat just because they eat too much (though yes, that will always be the raw mechanics in the body of it unless they’ve another condition causing it) but because of more deep mental health issues that need to be solved by the counsellers and therapists there’s a 12-month wait for in this country (fund mental health, you fuckers). For many people, food is a necessary comfort from terrors they should not be facing in the first place.
And as a final note, in this country more than a lot of Europe (which is generally less obese, by the by), the inherent politics of food is incredibly weighted against the working class who generally have less access to fresh, affordable food that is healthy and unprocessed than those that are wealthier. Notably, the working class also tends to be fatter. A lot of working people get by on processed dinners that go into the oven on 180 degrees for 20 minutes, after all, because it’s cheap and it’s easy at the end of a long day.
There you are, ways in which weight loss is more complicated than ‘eat less, exercise more’. Yes, being in caloric deficit is how you lose weight on a mechanical level but if I told a heroin addict to ‘just stop using heroin’, you’d tell me it was complex than that – and you’d be right. It is here too.
*And before anyone claims otherwise, no I am not obese but I’ve helped family members to lose weight. Be compassionate, please; it’s a really vulnerable place for a person to be. Calling their desire to know more ‘fat noises’ as OP is done leads you nowhere. If this is your mindset, please say nothing: you are so harmful.*
Very complex issues cannot be reduced to simple slogans like that. There are an incredible amount of factors to consider when it comes to weight loss. Including economic, social, mental health, disability and physical health to name just a few. While what he says isn’t technically wrong, it’s definitely reductive
Piers Morgan doesn’t understand the conversation, what an absolute shock.
It’s like saying the answer to world peace is “just don’t have wars”- maybe not technically *incorrect* but you’d have to be a true imbecile to think it’s helpful or the end of the conversation
The thing is with losing weight, it can be tough to find an enjoyable diet. In theory it’s easy, just eat right and exercise frequently. Willpower is the hardest part and you gotta find healthy food you enjoy, else you’ll crave the bad stuff even more which makes it even harder.
He’s acting like he isn’t fat too
One has to admire how Piers Moron can have both no chin and a double chin simultaneously, and still lecture other people on health and fitness.
As much of a Doctor as Dr Oz is
It doesn’t even have to be very much exercise. 99% just eat less food
….. You know, watching this and thinking about it, what is a turn off about it is actually that he interrupted the lady who was being interviewed and then the interview was completely derailed. He was so dismissive and rude, but he also didn’t give a damn at all about the program guest who was being interviewed. Knobhead.
Basic truth . This basic truth does not mean English fella is qualifed in sports science or any other matter.
I hate agreeing with piers Morgan
Piers Morgan is an arrogant twat but he isn’t wrong on this one
To be fair he’s right.
Less kalories in is the only way. U can workout for 8 hours but if u eat 10k kcal u still get fat
So he’s mostly right but no 100%.
So, to lose weight, you need to be burning more than you are taking in or a calorie deficit.This can be done by reducing calories, exercising more, or doing both.
But eating less isn’t really correct as if you swap salad for a chocolate bar that may be less in weight but more in calories.
Also, some people’s bodies hold more than others do, so the deficit needs to be greater before you start to lose anything.
Then, there’s the sustainability of the method. Most diets are terrible for having unstable methods, so people are guaranteed to fail. So, finding something that you can keep at is VERY important as this can be the deciding factor for a lot of people’s weight loss journeys.
If I went on a talk show as a guest to be interviewed and I was interrupted, I’d walk out. Especially if I hadn’t finished a full sentence yet. He clearly doesn’t respect other peoples opinions and shouldn’t be hosting a talk show.
Higher insulin in the blood is what makes you fat, NOT calories.
In a randomized controlled trial, two different test groups had some amazing differences. The groups were isocaloric meaning all participants in any group had exactly the same amount of calories. The only difference is between the groups were 1 L of liquid. The test groups of interest were water versus artificially sweetened soda. After six months the group that drink the water lost 2 kg, but the group that consumed the diet/sugar-free soda, which had a caloric load of zero, GAINED 2 kg. So after six months, there was a 4 kg difference between the two groups, despite the fact that they ate exactly the same amount of calories, in the same macro nutrient proportion. Considering the water and the diet soda have the same amount of calories, the calories-in calories-out logic would dictate that the groups should’ve had identical results. The reason they did not have identical results is because hormones are critical in the determination of how we store, body fat. These sugar-free diet, sodas, while having no calories, still upregulate insulin. Insulin slows fat loss down, and this is why nutrition planning that focuses on fats and proteins, while keeping carbohydrates to the minimum, have outcomes more associated with lower body fat. does the amount of food you eat still matter? Of course it does, but the simpleton‘s view of just reducing calories, is an oversimplification, and oversimplification is another word for wrong.
–
Maersk, M., Belza, A., Stødkilde-Jørgensen, H., Ringgaard, S., Chabanova, E., Thomsen, H., … & Richelsen, B. (2012). Sucrose-sweetened beverages increase fat storage in the liver, muscle, and visceral fat depot: a 6-mo randomized intervention study. The American journal of clinical nutrition, 95(2), 283-289.
Agreeing with Piers Morgan first thing in the morning. My day is ruined.
Eating less absolutely works, but it can be like telling a drug addict “have you tried doing less heroin?”.
If you are genuinely addicted to eating it’s really hard because, unlike drugs, you actually need food to live. You can’t go cold turkey. For many it’s a psychological problem and should be treated as such in those cases.
To lose weight you eat less. To gain muscle you workout. Very simple.
People are kicking off like he’s wrong, but I’m yet to see a fat person die of starvation.
People just throw excuses at stuff as a substitute rather than taking it on board and doing something about it.
It’s definitely not easy, but it’s not impossible.
Fat noises 😂😂
Technically, she ain’t wrong. You will lose SOME weight doing that. The amount varies from person to person, depending on one’s eating habits. Someone who mainly eats sugar based foods would lose more than some who eats mainly fast foods, since fast foods do contain some fats that can’t be broken down naturally.
What were they expecting the answer to be?
Self control.
Nah, some people defy the laws of thermodynamics.
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